Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders glides toward primary day as moderates brawl
"Its fratricide at the moment," said one Democrat.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and STEPHANIE MURRAY
02/09/2020 06:46 PM EST
PLYMOUTH, New Hampshire Bernie Sanders was battered in Iowa with more than $800,000 in TV attack ads that labeled him a socialist and argued he couldnt beat President Trump.
Here in New Hampshire, the opposite has happened: The airwaves are free of anti-Sanders spots in the days before the first-in-the-nation-primary, and hes watching the moderates shank each other.
Tom Steyer is largely training his advertising firepower onto Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden. The former vice president is mocking Buttigiegs experience and targeting him in a digital spot. Fighting back against Biden, the ex-mayor says hes tired of being a punchline.
The strength of the Vermont senator who is polling first in the state with Buttigieg closely behind him and the sudden lack of resistance to him on the airwaves is sparking anxiety among some moderate Democratic leaders.
Its fratricide at the moment, said a prominent moderate in Washington. Its super bad. Too many mods against Bernie and a fading Warren. Very, very scary.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,420 posts)and the mighty myth of invincibility ate it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)and how is getting 6000 more votes crashing?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...about Holly!
Thanks again!
(little smilie happy emoji guy bouncing up-and-down while waving!)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)49.6% in 2016. 26.1% in 2020. That's a very significant drop in support ... unable to get tens of thousands to go out for him a second time. I wouldn't call that a resounding success.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)love liz and biden but if second is unsuccessful I hate to think what 4th and 5th are
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)He had nearly 80,000 votes before and 40-some thousand votes this time. That's a major loss of support. If he had kept the same level of support, it should've been a runaway victory, in a caucus state where activists have a distinct advantage. But you asked why the word "crashed" was used .... there it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)we both know there were many more candidates in this caucus than last time so the vote naturally will be split...hopefully the democratic turnout in general will not have a major loss of support
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)That will end instantly once a nominee is chosen. Are the Sanders supporters ready to do the same thing if they lose?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Why not now?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)and have sent complaints to each campaign, each time they've done it, to stop.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Sadly, I know too many who chose Stein or to sit it out last time
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...be best served by Buttigieg winning NH. I think a lot of DUers recognize this, because there's post after post touting Buttigieg's "big" win in Iowa. Buttigieg isn't really that much of a threat due to his total alienation of Black folks and his lack of experience. He doesn't have the kind of following that can make up for that in the way Sanders does. Sanders losing NH would benefit Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided