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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:33 PM Feb 2020

Sanders campaign to request partial Iowa recanvass

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will ask the Iowa Democratic Party to recanvass some precincts in the Iowa caucuses after reporters and others on Twitter pointed out irregularities in the final delegate calculations.

A Sanders campaign official confirmed to The Hill in an email that the campaign will seek a "partial" recanvass, but it wasn't immediately clear how many precincts would be contested.

The announcement comes shortly after the Iowa Democratic Party released updated totals for the state's caucuses held last week following days of uncertainty over the contest's winner.

Totals released by the party on Sunday indicated that former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) would receive two more pledged delegates from the contest than did Sanders -- 16 and 14, respectively. No other candidate won 10 or more delegates in the caucuses.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482267-sanders-campaign-to-request-partial-iowa-recanvass

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Sanders campaign to request partial Iowa recanvass (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2020 OP
i have read reports that the math was incorrect on some forms questionseverything Feb 2020 #1
Lawyers for the party said they cannot be changed Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #28
i had not heard that but i find it foolish questionseverything Feb 2020 #30
Agreed Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #38
I heard NJCher Feb 2020 #2
From what I heard and read, all districts were reported. Some didn't like the results. George II Feb 2020 #3
my information comes from a credible source NJCher Feb 2020 #4
Got a name? RandySF Feb 2020 #9
LOL, like I'm going to mention my friend's name on a public forum? NJCher Feb 2020 #11
Feel free to list these "missing" precincts then. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #12
hang in there buddy NJCher Feb 2020 #15
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #16
I know for a fact that they are requesting the recanvass NJCher Feb 2020 #21
Well, everyone knew that -- that is the subject of the original post. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #24
The sanders press release has the precincts listed with some specific Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #31
And here are the actual worksheets with the discrepancies Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #36
I'm waiting on pins and needles. RandySF Feb 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author showblue22 Feb 2020 #34
+++ wisteria Feb 2020 #54
Ya well, we are asking for Sanders health records before we make a vote. krissey Feb 2020 #5
Maybe a DNA test as well? Indepatriot Feb 2020 #7
Lets be absurd then we can dismiss the expectation of the man that promised a health report on his krissey Feb 2020 #10
I'm all for Bernie posting his medical records NJCher Feb 2020 #14
He had a heart attack. They didn't. You are making a medical judgment on subjective looksee? krissey Feb 2020 #19
please explain why your candidate has a gray face NJCher Feb 2020 #23
Sanders had a heart attack. Biden released his records and told what they are working on. krissey Feb 2020 #25
answer the question NJCher Feb 2020 #27
Entitled to me answering a medical question when I have absolutely no knowledge at all? krissey Feb 2020 #40
Has he announced his running mate? Indepatriot Feb 2020 #39
He has surrounded himself with 3rd party voters. Why would he do anything different krissey Feb 2020 #42
He has surrounded himself with millions of democratic supporters as well. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #47
++++ wisteria Feb 2020 #56
poor bernie can't believe the masses of poor people didnt vote for him in the millions lol nt msongs Feb 2020 #6
"poor Bernie" could give a rat's ass NJCher Feb 2020 #17
The Bernie hate on this sub is insane. OliverQ Feb 2020 #33
Newsflash.. this is the primary.. not everyone Cha Feb 2020 #43
Doesn't mean you have to be obnoxious about it. OliverQ Feb 2020 #50
So who's Being "obnoxious" about it.. in your opinion? Cha Feb 2020 #62
Most of the masses are in the center wisteria Feb 2020 #57
source? NJCher Feb 2020 #61
What a waste of time. Move on, dude. Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #8
The point is not delegates nor votes, denem Feb 2020 #49
That seems like something we should all support, in theory democrattotheend Feb 2020 #13
I want a full recanvass, not partial. RandySF Feb 2020 #20
In theory I don't object to that. But are all precincts in contention? democrattotheend Feb 2020 #22
If some are in question, it makes one wonder about the rest. wisteria Feb 2020 #58
if your candidate has an issue NJCher Feb 2020 #26
We have moved on. wisteria Feb 2020 #59
ty i agree 100% questionseverything Feb 2020 #29
According to the rules a candidate has to make a request for a recanvass underthematrix Feb 2020 #32
We are beyond Iowa and looking at NH. Buttigieg won Iowa. Good to go. krissey Feb 2020 #35
Recanvass is a reasonable request. I personally think all elections should be recanvassed. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #37
This is clearly outrageous on Sander's part. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #41
I'm sorry RandySF Feb 2020 #45
My response was directed at the several posters on this thread who do. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #48
The GOP? ehrnst Feb 2020 #60
Congratulations to Pete on Winning Iowa! Cha Feb 2020 #44
Good on Bernie. With all of the confusion about what happened we need to be sure Malmsy Feb 2020 #46
I thought he was putting Iowa behind him? wisteria Feb 2020 #51
Maybe the entire count needs to be redone. wisteria Feb 2020 #52
this is why people have no trust at all Amyishere Feb 2020 #53
Ha ha ha ha ha LisaM Feb 2020 #55
 

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
1. i have read reports that the math was incorrect on some forms
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:39 PM
Feb 2020

I believe cnn was the source, it should be corrected

what is great is that the info iowa put out was transparent enough for this to be caught

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
28. Lawyers for the party said they cannot be changed
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:57 PM
Feb 2020

Because determining mathematic inaccuracies over the worksheets would no longer make their roles impartial. Or something to that affect

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questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
30. i had not heard that but i find it foolish
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:01 AM
Feb 2020

after all math is math

if there are math mistakes taking the whole number that was voters and turning it into delegates, they need to be corrected

simple

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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
2. I heard
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:43 PM
Feb 2020

some precincts weren't even reported! This is from someone who looked at the results that were made available for anyone to inspect. That's pretty cool.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. From what I heard and read, all districts were reported. Some didn't like the results.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020
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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
4. my information comes from a credible source
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020

who is actually engaged in the counting.

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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
11. LOL, like I'm going to mention my friend's name on a public forum?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:37 PM
Feb 2020

What a ridiculous request. The answer is I have a name and I would not post someone's information unless I asked them.

However, you can check around Twitter and find that the Sanders campaign has found some obvious discrepancies and they have until tomorrow at 1 p.m. to request a recanvass.

They will be doing so and are confident that the Bernie-Pete situation will be an even number of delegates.



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W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
12. Feel free to list these "missing" precincts then.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020
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primary today, I would vote for:
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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
15. hang in there buddy
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:44 PM
Feb 2020

Tomorrow they will be posted.

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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
21. I know for a fact that they are requesting the recanvass
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020

My source did not give me the precinct numbers. I could ask, but then I'd be your research assistant, wouldn't I? So you can just wait until tomorrow.

If you would like to assume I'm full of %&@ until then, by all means do so. Especially if it makes you feel better about yourself.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
24. Well, everyone knew that -- that is the subject of the original post.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:52 PM
Feb 2020

Since you have been repeatedly asked to provide support for your baseless conspiracy theories and have repeatedly refused to provide such support, it can be safely assumed that you are just talking out of your @%$

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
31. The sanders press release has the precincts listed with some specific
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:03 AM
Feb 2020

Discrepancies that the OP is referring to.


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1225615234196557825&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftruthout.org%2Farticles%2Fsanders-campaign-found-more-than-a-dozen-discrepancies-in-iowa-delegate-data%2F
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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
18. I'm waiting on pins and needles.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:48 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Response to NJCher (Reply #11)

 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
5. Ya well, we are asking for Sanders health records before we make a vote.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:56 PM
Feb 2020
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
7. Maybe a DNA test as well?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
10. Lets be absurd then we can dismiss the expectation of the man that promised a health report on his
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

80 yr old health record after having a heart attack while running in our primary and picking a VP that could very well not be a Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
14. I'm all for Bernie posting his medical records
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:43 PM
Feb 2020

however, one doesn't really need them to see that Bernie is in far better health than either Warren or Biden. In this youtube clip, where the lighting conditions are the same for all, Bernie looks very healthy and Biden and Warren look like they....urm, need to see a doctor soon and post new health reports. They are gray and ashen-faced.



We need updated reports on Biden and Warren....NOW.

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
19. He had a heart attack. They didn't. You are making a medical judgment on subjective looksee?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020

Really? lol. Ah ha.

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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
23. please explain why your candidate has a gray face
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:51 PM
Feb 2020

and mine doesn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
25. Sanders had a heart attack. Biden released his records and told what they are working on.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders released a letter saying he was fit for Presidency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
27. answer the question
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:56 PM
Feb 2020

I want to know how you would explain your candidate's gray face?

I'm entitled to an explanation. After all, your candidate is closest to mine on issues and I just might switch my choice if anything were to happen to Bernie. I certainly don't want to go with someone who looks so obviously unhealthy and has a gray face.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
40. Entitled to me answering a medical question when I have absolutely no knowledge at all?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:18 AM
Feb 2020

Entitled to my ignorance? Oh too funny. So, I took my ignorant self to your video and looked at both the faces and meh, I have nothing for you. They both look normal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
39. Has he announced his running mate?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:15 AM
Feb 2020

Whom, pray tell, is this mysterious person who could very well ......."not be a Democrat"....I'm all ears...

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
42. He has surrounded himself with 3rd party voters. Why would he do anything different
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:23 AM
Feb 2020

if he won the primary?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
47. He has surrounded himself with millions of democratic supporters as well.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:34 AM
Feb 2020

If you haven't noticed, the biggest block of Americans currently identify as "independent" or "uncommitted". Not being a lifetime Democrat is a GOOD THING in the GE. Warren is a former Republican, as is HRC....

If I were to vote in a presidential
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msongs

(67,420 posts)
6. poor bernie can't believe the masses of poor people didnt vote for him in the millions lol nt
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,688 posts)
17. "poor Bernie" could give a rat's ass
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:48 PM
Feb 2020

Haven't you noticed that the bullets don't bother Bernie? Especially the ones coming from the Democratic center because they just make him more popular to the masses of people who are sick of the same old same old.

Bernie's mind frame is focused on one goal: that of winning the nomination and beating Trump.

And where is your documentation on the economic demographics of who voted for Bernie? Post them if your statement is based on credible studies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
33. The Bernie hate on this sub is insane.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
43. Newsflash.. this is the primary.. not everyone
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:26 AM
Feb 2020

wants him for the candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
50. Doesn't mean you have to be obnoxious about it.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:59 PM
Feb 2020
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
62. So who's Being "obnoxious" about it.. in your opinion?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
57. Most of the masses are in the center
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NJCher

(35,688 posts)
61. source?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:08 PM
Feb 2020

demographics? Studies?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joinfortmill

(14,435 posts)
8. What a waste of time. Move on, dude.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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denem

(11,045 posts)
49. The point is not delegates nor votes,
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:50 AM
Feb 2020

it is to seize on any discrepancy, as proof positive of a vast establishment conspiracy: 'we wuz robbed/ the game is rigged'

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
13. That seems like something we should all support, in theory
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:43 PM
Feb 2020

It's good that they were transparent with the results, and if there were errors they need to be corrected. Anyone who opposes this loses credibility in the event they get nominated and need to demand a recount in the general. We're Democrats - we want the votes counted properly. End of story.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
20. I want a full recanvass, not partial.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
22. In theory I don't object to that. But are all precincts in contention?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020

It seems like the reporting problems only happened at some precincts. I don't object to recanvassing everything, but it seems like a bit of a waste if there were no problems at certain precincts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
58. If some are in question, it makes one wonder about the rest.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020

Not just those which could possibly favor one candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,688 posts)
26. if your candidate has an issue
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

he can ask for a recanvass, just like any other candidate.

Your full recanvass request is easy to make, since you wouldn't be doing the work. If you were doing the work or footing the bill for it, I have a feeling we'd be hearing a different story out of you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
59. We have moved on.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020

Iowa was a joke.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
32. According to the rules a candidate has to make a request for a recanvass
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:03 AM
Feb 2020

This is consistent with the DNC chairman's request. i think it's a good idea.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
35. We are beyond Iowa and looking at NH. Buttigieg won Iowa. Good to go.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:12 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Midnight Writer

(21,769 posts)
37. Recanvass is a reasonable request. I personally think all elections should be recanvassed.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:43 AM
Feb 2020

I wouldn't mind if we had to wait a day or two for election results.

Think how different our American history would be if the recount in 2000 had proceeded. If the Supreme Court, instead of stepping in to stop the recount, had told everyone to back off until we had a confident tally of the votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
41. This is clearly outrageous on Sander's part.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:19 AM
Feb 2020

Why in the world would Sanders suspect he might not be getting a fair accounting?....it's baffling...

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RandySF

(58,935 posts)
45. I'm sorry
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:38 AM
Feb 2020

Can you please direct me to the part where I said I had a problem with it?

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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
48. My response was directed at the several posters on this thread who do.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:35 AM
Feb 2020
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
44. Congratulations to Pete on Winning Iowa!
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:28 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Malmsy

(297 posts)
46. Good on Bernie. With all of the confusion about what happened we need to be sure
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:28 AM
Feb 2020

that nothing is amiss.

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
51. I thought he was putting Iowa behind him?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
52. Maybe the entire count needs to be redone.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Amyishere

(69 posts)
53. this is why people have no trust at all
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020

and I don't blame them.

people talk but don't do anything, and sometimes the words are cruel and filled with hate. Words can and do kill.

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LisaM

(27,815 posts)
55. Ha ha ha ha ha
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020

When does he ever put anything behind him? He's a grudge holder of mammoth proportions.

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