A 35% drop from 60% would be 39%. But I understand what you're saying. Of course, not directly comparable as he was essentially running against 1 competitor instead of 4+. Though also, I don't know how these numbers compare to the comparable 2016 poll numbers. We'll have to wait until Tuesday to compare like to like.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

31. I can't tell if the people who keep referring to 2016 numbers are honestly that bad at math, or...

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:54 AM

Feb 2020

...if they're just desperate. What part of "2-person race" vs. "crowded field" do people not understand?

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

40. Some people just want to spite Sanders.

Reply to Garrett78 (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:31 AM

Feb 2020

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)

26. Yes, yes.

Reply to George II (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:45 AM

Feb 2020

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)

3. Wow, Klobuchar surge. If that holds up, will be interesting what it does to the race.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:07 AM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)

9. not much

Reply to DanTex (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:15 AM

Feb 2020

because there isn't another state she can win.

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jezebel321

(278 posts)

14. her NH surge is giving NH to Sanders.

Reply to evertonfc (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:18 AM

Feb 2020

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

32. Klobuchar could win Minnesota, but yeah, she needed to win Iowa.

Reply to evertonfc (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:56 AM

Feb 2020

A 3rd place finish in New Hampshire could justify her continuing, but she really doesn't have a path.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)

42. You keep saying this

Reply to Garrett78 (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:41 AM

Feb 2020

But it’s nothing but your opinion.

She is rising in the polls. If that continues, she definitely has a path.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

43. Where could she realistically win outside of Minnesota?

Reply to squirecam (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:42 AM

Feb 2020

She finished 5th in Iowa as the only candidate from a state that borders Iowa. 5th!

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)

45. She gained momentum

Reply to Garrett78 (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:47 AM

Feb 2020

Despite having to stay in the trial while her two moderate opponents got to stay in Iowa as much as they wanted. Now she’s claiming from the low digits to potentially gaining delegates in N.H.

The more Amy is known by voters, the more they are liking her.

If people start to believe, as I do, that she would be the best candidate, that’s her path. McCain had no money and was left for dead. Then NH brought him back. A good showing by Amy brings her money and exposure.

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krissey

(1,205 posts)

4. Ah so disappointed. Let Klobuchar rise.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:08 AM

Feb 2020

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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

8. Biden will have a hard time justifying remaining in the race if he finishes 5th

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Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:14 AM

Feb 2020

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)

10. Two small white

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:16 AM

Feb 2020

states don't finish him. SC, NV and Super Tuesday will tell the tale

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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

11. He would have to win both

Reply to evertonfc (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:17 AM

Feb 2020

NV is next, and I'm not convinced he can win there.

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)

28. No he won't, he wasn't expecting to win

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:48 AM

Feb 2020

And him an Warren look tied in this one poll, with a lot of people undecided. Wishful thinking-yes?

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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

29. He's 5th in two polls

Reply to wisteria (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:53 AM

Feb 2020

Whether he was expected to win or not is debatable, but he wasn't expected to finish worse than third. A 4th and 5th place finish will undermine the argument for his candidacy.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)

12. Those numbers don't match what I'm looking at, where did those come from?

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:17 AM

Feb 2020

From https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/new-hampshire/2020/2-8-20_final_nh_tracking_marginals.pdf?

Bernie Sanders-------------------------------------------------- 23.80
Pete Buttigieg---------------------------------------------------- 21.80
Elizabeth Warren ------------------------------------------------- 13.40
Joe Biden----------------------------------------------------------- 10.40
Amy Klobuchar---------------------------------------------------- 8.60

Are we looking at different things?

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RandySF

(58,933 posts)

17. You're right

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:21 AM

Feb 2020

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krissey

(1,205 posts)

18. I want Klobuchar up there but these feel more right.

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:21 AM

Feb 2020

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jezebel321

(278 posts)

19. those are yesterday's numbers from Fri and Sat. nt

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:23 AM

Feb 2020

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DrToast

(6,414 posts)

23. Look at the 2/9 set here

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:30 AM

Feb 2020

https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/research-at-suffolk/political-research-center/polls/new-hampshire

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Celerity

(43,419 posts)

38. you are looking at an older poll, from the 8th, this one is from the the 9th

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:07 AM

Feb 2020

this is your poll

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)

13. This would be an interesting top 3

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:18 AM

Feb 2020

If accurate obviously.

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RandySF

(58,933 posts)

15. With a day to go

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:20 AM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
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msongs

(67,420 posts)

21. so will the derailed worship cult rebound w/ smashing win, marginal victory, narrow loss nt

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Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:28 AM

Feb 2020

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Bumperstickers

(199 posts)

22. Pete dropped like a rock this week

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:29 AM

Feb 2020

From being ahead by 2 a few days ago to trailing big Less then 2 days out. Biden , Sanders and Amy really took him out via the debate and town halls. He loses big in NH and hes finished.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

37. He was never really ahead by 2. This is why you have to consider multiple polls.

Reply to Bumperstickers (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:05 AM

Feb 2020

538 published a piece earlier today about where things stand in NH: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-polling-picture-in-new-hampshire-is-actually-pretty-clear/

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Green Line

(1,123 posts)

24. Half of N.H. is undecided

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Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:34 AM

Feb 2020

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)

30. Exactly, and those claiming to know seem to change their votes daily.

Reply to Green Line (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:53 AM

Feb 2020

Is NH really going to prove anything?

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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

33. I see 7% undecided.

Reply to Green Line (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:58 AM

Feb 2020

With around 38% that might change there minds. Where do you see half?

https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/new-hampshire/2020/final-nh-tracking-xtabs-2-9-20.pdf?la=en&hash=09E703AEFEA86394937F34F992096BE70ABA822F

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Green Line

(1,123 posts)

36. An article in the Boston Globe today

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:01 AM

Feb 2020

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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)

27. Wow, that's a really bad result for Warren and Biden.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

Feb 2020

I don't quite get why Warren cratered so hard. Biden better hope he comes in at #1 in SC and NV or he's done.

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Chasing Dreams

(415 posts)

34. Warren cratered because NH voters

Reply to OliverQ (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:00 AM

Feb 2020

want a moderate who can win in November....

Amy Klobuchar!

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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)

39. What does Moderate even mean?

Reply to Chasing Dreams (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:11 AM

Feb 2020

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-moderate-middle-is-a-myth/

The Moderate Middle Is A Myth

Most Moderates are actually economically and socially liberal.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-trump-nominee

"I Would Vote For My Dead Cat Over Trump": Even Moderate Democrats Say They’d Vote For Bernie Sanders If He’s The Nominee

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)

44. Go Amy

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Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:42 AM

Feb 2020

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Celerity

(43,419 posts)

35. Damn, Pete got rocked, he was up over Bernie 25 to 24 on the the 6th

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:01 AM

Feb 2020

At this rate Klobuchar might catch him for 2nd, but do not quite think there is enough time

She gained 233% in just 3 days though

Bloomberg and Trump (due to Sanders possibly winning so big, and Biden possibly coming in 5th) are the big winners here

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Garrett78

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41. The aggregate of polls never had Buttigieg in the lead. See post #37.

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Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:38 AM

Feb 2020

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Celerity

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46. the rolling average for February the 6 and 7th did, in THIS poll, the one that is in discussion

Reply to Garrett78 (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:56 AM

Feb 2020

not some aggregated version of multiple, different pollsters

I made no claims about other polls

so chalk and cheese

https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/new-hampshire/2020/2-7-20_final_nh_tracking_marginals.pdf

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

47. My point is that you shouldn't ever only look at 1 poll. An aggregate of polls is critical.

Reply to Celerity (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:09 AM

Feb 2020

This piece is worth reading: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-polling-picture-in-new-hampshire-is-actually-pretty-clear/

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Celerity

(43,419 posts)

48. I already looked at that, and I, again, only replied about this one poll in particular, as that is

Reply to Garrett78 (Reply #47)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:25 AM

Feb 2020

the one that was posted and that is the one that had the dramatic movement. I have said for some time that I think Sanders would win NH, and I still have hope that Pete can make it close, which is what your link says as well, more or less.

Election Update: The Polling Picture In New Hampshire Is Actually Pretty Clear
Sanders remains the front-runner, but there’s still a path for Buttigieg

I do hope this poll from the OP is an outlier and not representative of a big trend shift.

cheers

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