Democratic Primaries
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(I sincerely apologize for the length. I wouldn't post this if I didn't think it was important. Id wanted to include excerpts from books, but you can see this was getting out of hand. My sources are at the bottom of this post.)
Mike Bloomberg grew up in a lower middle class Jewish familya loving family where both parents were fully present and encouraged his exploration of things he was interested in.
His mother was a constant presence in his life.
His parents loved him.
Trumps father Fred was an intolerant disciplinarian and his mother was virtually unseen except at meals.
Michael Bloombergs father was a soft, gentle man. His mother was stricter, but they were both affectionate. On weekends, his father would take Mike to his favorite place, the Science Museum. Harmless mischief wasnt punished in the Bloomberg household.
Trumps mother was an unseen presence he later mythologized into an angel. Not much is known about her even by his most meticulous biographers. Her job was to do what Fred told her to do and stay out of the way. Fred apparently didnt want a woman to influence his sons, thinking it would make them soft. When asked about his mother, Trump gets tongue-tied and eventually produces some platitudes, not because he's overcome with emotion. The real reason he cant describe her is because he barely knew her.
Bloombergs parents encouraged his interests. Mike had a sense of humor and pursued his interests in science and debating. Some of his classmates considered him arrogant but others said he was just smart. His grades were mediocre. He went to the best college that accepted him. That was okay with his parents.
Trumps father ordered Donald to be interested in the same things he was interested in.
Tension was so high in the Trump household that Donalds older brother Fred Jr. estranged himself from the family and began to drink heavily. (Fred Jr. died at the age of 43 from alcoholism.) Any infraction was punished. Donald Trump was sent away at the age of 13 to a military academy for behavior most parents would consider normal acting-out and testing of child-parent boundaries.
Bloombergs Parents to Mike: The world is a basically a benevolent place. We are a blessed family. We're never going to tell you what to do with your life. Let your curiosity guide you and your life will unfold.
Fred Trump: The world is a hostile environment. Even the guy you think is your loyal friend will eventually cut your throat. I dont care what your interests are. Now that your older brother has shown himself to be a disloyal failure, you are going to work for me. In a sense were competitors, though, so youll never be as good as me.
In this suffocating atmosphere, Donald Trump coped with anxiety by developing an arsenal of defense mechanisms to avoid emotions like shame and embarrassment, feelings he refused to tolerate.
Whereas Mike Bloomberg evolved into a fully-developed human being, the Trump we know is essentially an assemblage of defense mechanisms. They served him when he was a teenager. In fact, he needed them to survive. But he refused or was unable to abandon them and evolve as he grew older. That is still who he is.
Mike Bloomberg has an actual work ethic; Trump wants the world to believe he works hard. Bloomberg could concentrate sixteen hours a day six or seven days a week while developing the Bloomberg Terminal. Trump cant concentrate for 15 seconds because hes in fight or flight mode all the time, on the lookout for any slight or perceived threats.
Youve probably noticed something about Donald Trump: He has no sense of humor, probably because he sees almost every encounter as a threatening contest that can have only a winner and a loser. Mike Bloomberg has a good sense of humor; in fact, its gotten him into trouble. He is not threatened by people who know more than him; he appreciates their expertise and hires them.
In Summary
Trump: I had to fight for everything I have. The world is against me but Ill show them.
Bloomberg: Thankfully, this countrys been good to me. Because of that, I have an obligation to do a lot of good and help a lot of people. I'm the one who is blessed by being able to give.
The Fruits of the Tree
This story isnt over until you examine their children.
The Bloombergs had two amazing daughters who are also philanthropists. Neither seeks the limelight.
The dysfunction of Trumps children couldnt be more obvious. Trump did to his sons exactly what Fred did to him. Ivanka I cant explain yet. This dysfunction is apparent even to Melania, who we are told labors to keep Barron compartmentalized from his fathers influence. This is why Trump sometimes slips and refers to Barron as Melanias.
Last Word
Nobody calls me Donald. Its Mr. Trump. Even my accountant whos been with me thirty years doesnt dare call me that. If you do that again, youre fired.
Please call me Mike. You know the kid we hired this morning in the mail room; even he calls me Mike. Nobody calls me Mr. Bloomberg except maybe the reporter who writes my obituary.
Theres so much more to say about this, but thats the best I can do for now.
Sources:
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, revised and expanded edition, edited by Bandy X. Lee
Dangerous Charisma: The Political Psychology of Donald Trump and His Followers, by Dr. Jerrold Post and Stephanie Doucette
The Many Lives of Michael Bloomberg, by Eleanor Randolph
Some facts cross-checked on Wikepedia
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)he used to ride to Manhattan, to Times Square, to buy knives. Fred opened his son's bureau drawers and found a cache of switchblades and that was that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,604 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)One-Ton Don.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)privilege and following FDR path of giving back to his fellow americans.
Illinois Gov. Pritzker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)If someone is inclined to torture cats... They will torture cats.
Thing is...No decent people would vote for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)as someone who had taught the kids of "movers and shakers" for more than 30 years on both the left and right coasts, I just don't think that these folks are capable of understanding the day-to-day struggles of Americans. Why? Because they don't live in the same world as more than 90% of the country does. Therefore, how could any of them--even those well-intentioned--do the job of being President of the United States for ALL her people?
With so many people concerned that tRump will try to never leave the Oval Office even if beaten, it seems odd that we are being called to rally around a man who convinced citizens to change the rules and give him a previously prohibited third term as NYC mayor...
Everybody's just waiting to hear from the one
Who can give them the answers
And lead them back to that place
In the warmth of the sun
Where sweet childhood still dances
Who'll come along
And hold out that strong
That gentle father's hand
Long ago I heard someone say
Something 'bout Everyman
Waiting here for Everyman
Make it on your own
Make it if you think you can
If you see somewhere to go I understand
I'm not trying to tell you
That I've seen the plan
Turn and walk away if you think I am
But don't think too badly
Of one who's left holding sand
He's just another dreamer
Dreaming 'bout Everyman (Jackson Browne 10-1-71)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden