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erpowers

(9,350 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:44 AM Feb 2020

Democrats Should Read This Before Voting For Michael Bloomberg

The idea of Michael Bloomberg becoming the Democratic presidential nominee should be too absurd to even consider seriously. For one thing, he is a conservative who openly believes that the poor should be ruled over by the super-rich and is trying to buy the nomination outright. He has a history of saying monstrously offensive things about women and transgender people, and oversaw an infamous racist police regime that terrorized Black and Hispanic New Yorkers. If he did somehow manage to spend his way to the nomination, bypassing the democratic process, it would be such an outrage—and so demoralizing to the Democratic base—that it would guarantee Trump’s reelection. If the choice were between two sexist billionaires who hate the poor, how many young people would drag themselves to the polls to support “our side’s” billionaire? It would permanently disillusion an entire generation and vindicate every cynical theory of politics as a domain where money rules absolutely.

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It’s especially remarkable that Bloomberg has chosen to seek the Democratic nomination, because he wasn’t actually a Democrat until right before starting this campaign, and ran for New York City mayor as a Republican. He supported war criminal George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. He set a record for donations to the New York Republican Party, and heaped “piles of cash at the feet of city and state Republican leaders.” In 2016, he spent $11.7 million helping Republican Pat Toomey keep his Senate seat, an election that Toomey won by less than two points and that helped Mitch McConnell maintain control of the Senate. He endorsed Scott Brown in his reelection campaign against Elizabeth Warren. Bloomberg “not only backed Republicans in competitive and pivotal races” but “has also sunk money into Republican primaries on behalf of McConnell allies” like Lindsey Graham and Thad Cochran. While Bloomberg’s donations have more recently leaned Democratic—an attempt to purchase political influence on his personal issues like gun control—his support for New York Republicans helped maintain the state senate’s decades-long Republican majority, with all of the reactionary policy that entailed, like delaying marriage equality. This is what plutocratic governance looks like: billionaires deciding which party will be in charge, in accordance with their whims and policy preferences.

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Bloomberg’s own company was sued by 72 women who claimed “the company discriminated against them by decreasing their pay, demoting them, and excluding them from other employment opportunities after they became pregnant,” with one senior executive allegedly remarking “I’m not having any pregnant bitches working for me.”

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Bloomberg has always opposed traditional Democratic policies for improving the lives of working people. He said he is “not, and [has] never been in favor of raising the minimum wage” (giving the usual discredited talking point about job loss), and as mayor vowed to veto a living wage bill, comparing it to Soviet Communism and promising to fight it in court. Bloomberg is a believer in “trickle-down” economics, whereby helping the rich helps the poor:


https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/02/a-republican-plutocrat-tries-to-buy-the-democratic-nomination


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Democrats Should Read This Before Voting For Michael Bloomberg (Original Post) erpowers Feb 2020 OP
I've read it. I'm still thinking he's my number 1 Happyhippychick Feb 2020 #1
I agree. I don't know how we get past "he's a conservative." Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #2
He's not a conservative. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #5
quote: I don't know how we get past "he's a conservative." left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #16
Stop & Frisk Doremus Feb 2020 #33
Michael Bloomberg Reiterates Apology for 'Stop and Frisk' left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #34
That makes it all better. Doremus Feb 2020 #37
yep left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #39
Current Affairs has endorsed Sanders, so they do have a dog in the fight. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #3
I agree, thanks for posting. saidsimplesimon Feb 2020 #6
who else is there to vote for that can beat Trump? LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #4
I really think Joe is a good man, but he's the king of the unforced error. Squinch Feb 2020 #29
I'm waiting for Mitt Romney to switch parties and become a Democrat. Wouldn't he be perfect? jalan48 Feb 2020 #7
Dream big. Mitch is a winner. We could use him on our side! Doremus Feb 2020 #35
He is for $15/hr minimum wage texasfiddler Feb 2020 #8
I've read it. Doesn't change my mind about him. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #9
+1 mdelaguna Feb 2020 #23
This is "bull" left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #10
Did the "media" make him support repubs for senate in 2012 and 2016? Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #20
"You've made a big deal out of Warren" left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #22
If there was an alternative extvbroadcaster Feb 2020 #11
If he can beat Donald Trump, I'm all in. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #12
I'm still undecided but if Bloomberg gets the nomination he gets my vote. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #21
The editor who wrote that piece is a Sanders surrogate who last week told people to tell highplainsdem Feb 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Green Line Feb 2020 #41
An article full of lies. Not impressed. stopbush Feb 2020 #14
If he gets the nom, Bloomberg it is. Anyone, but Trump. Shell_Seas Feb 2020 #15
Like others say, if he can beat Trump. that's all that pretty much matters Kaleva Feb 2020 #17
He has contributed to the mess we're in. JudyM Feb 2020 #18
turnout? Hearthrob Feb 2020 #30
That is the problem that he helped create, and if he genuinely wants to help, put $ into Palast JudyM Feb 2020 #42
the author of that article, Nathan J. Robinson, is a piece of shit Democratic Party hater Celerity Feb 2020 #19
My head hurts. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2020 #24
Democrats should read this before voting for donald trump Jakes Progress Feb 2020 #25
hopefully- Hearthrob Feb 2020 #26
The only thing that matters is defeating trump Gothmog Feb 2020 #27
I'd vote for my trash guy if he could beat Trump ass Bengus81 Feb 2020 #38
Democrats should vote against Donald Trump. Period. BKDem Feb 2020 #28
Bloomberg is my candidate of last resort. denem Feb 2020 #31
The irony is that Sanders and the liberal left will be responsible for creating President Bloomberg. honest.abe Feb 2020 #32
Voting for him anyway. He can take on Trump and WIN Bengus81 Feb 2020 #36
Wikipedia says of Bloomberg's political affiliations: people Feb 2020 #40
 

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
1. I've read it. I'm still thinking he's my number 1
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:46 AM
Feb 2020
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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
2. I agree. I don't know how we get past "he's a conservative."
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:47 AM
Feb 2020

Plus, having two billionaires running for President is the start of a dystopian novel—so we might want to avoid that.

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
5. He's not a conservative.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

People see "Republican" and assume he's conservative. He's really not.

I would prefer he not be the nominee, but I also think people have no idea where he stands on most issues and have chosen to pick and choose ones that make him look like a right-winger. He's pretty obviously not when his overall record is considered.

https://www.ontheissues.org/mike_bloomberg.htm

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/michael-bloomberg/

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. quote: I don't know how we get past "he's a conservative."
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020
You can start here:

Bloomberg Pitches Program to Boost Black Economic Progress
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-19/bloomberg-pitches-program-to-boost-black-businesses-homeowners

Bloomberg tax proposal seeks to collect $5T from high-income taxpayers
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481031-bloomberg-tax-proposal-seeks-to-collect-5-trillion-from-high-income

Bloomberg Seeks to Limit Drug Patent Protection to Reduce Costs
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-27/bloomberg-seeks-to-limit-drug-patent-protection-to-reduce-costs

Bloomberg unveils plan to boost housing affordability, tackle homelessness
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480667-bloomberg-unveils-plan-to-boost-housing-affordability-tackle-homelessness

Bloomberg Proposes $1 Trillion Public Works Plan
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-22/michael-bloomberg-unveils-1-trillion-public-works-plan?srnd=politics-vp

Bloomberg donates $4.5M to U.N. climate body after U.S. cuts
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/michael-bloomberg-donates-4-5m-u-n-climate-body-after-n868266

Bloomberg gave $500M to clean energy effort
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-michael-bloomberg-500-million-clean-energy-20190607-v2lq7vufxjc2dj34jeganghh4i-story.html

He came out in support of marriage equality in 2005.
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2020/2/05/michael-bloomberg-his-lgbtq-priorities

Bloomberg statement on Black History month
https://www.mikebloomberg.com/news/statement-from-mike-bloomberg-on-black-history-month

Bloomberg gave Johns Hopkins $1.8 billion for financial aid
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/former-nyc-mayor-michael-bloomberg-giving-johns-hopkins-1-8-billion-financial-aid/

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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
33. Stop & Frisk
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:31 PM
Feb 2020
Bloomberg Pitches Program to Boost Black Economic Progress
Bloomberg statement on Black History month


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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
37. That makes it all better.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
3. Current Affairs has endorsed Sanders, so they do have a dog in the fight.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

I'm not crazy about Bloomberg but I'll take him over Bernie.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
4. who else is there to vote for that can beat Trump?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

This race is looking like its coming down to Bernie & Bloomberg - If you think Bernie can beat Trump then no problem


If Biden would start preforming like he did the last debate we wouldn't be in this mess

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Squinch

(50,955 posts)
29. I really think Joe is a good man, but he's the king of the unforced error.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:25 PM
Feb 2020
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jalan48

(13,870 posts)
7. I'm waiting for Mitt Romney to switch parties and become a Democrat. Wouldn't he be perfect?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

He would attract all those Republicans dissatisfied with Trump virtually assuring a victory for "Democrats" in the fall. Go Mitt!

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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
35. Dream big. Mitch is a winner. We could use him on our side!
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:38 PM
Feb 2020
if it's necessary
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texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
8. He is for $15/hr minimum wage
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

That doesn’t match the article.

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BusyBeingBest

(8,054 posts)
9. I've read it. Doesn't change my mind about him.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

This is war.

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. This is "bull"
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:58 AM
Feb 2020

"he wasn’t actually a Democrat until right before starting this campaign" --
He was a Democratic mayor of NYC for 4 years.

And the source of the article, Current Affairs:
Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/current-affairs-magazine/

"LEFT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes.
Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy."

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Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
20. Did the "media" make him support repubs for senate in 2012 and 2016?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020

Has he apologized fr supporting Toomey in 2016 since the candidate he gave money to voted to acquit. You've made a big deal out of Warren being a repub a quarter a century ago so why does Bloomberg et a pass on his very recent repub ties, including supporting Bush in his races?

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
22. "You've made a big deal out of Warren"
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

No, I only bring it up when Warren supporters attack Bloomberg for having been a Republican.

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extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
11. If there was an alternative
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

If there was a JFK or an Obama in the race, it would be easy. But face it, the current field will lose to Trump. Only Bloomberg can shove it up Trump's ass. I will overlook Bloomberg's problems if it will get rid of Trump. 4 more years of Trump, unchained, is almost unthinkable. His mental state is deteriorating, and there is every indication that the military will follow him off a cliff. If he orders missile strikes and touched off WWIII, the country will be sorry they ever questioned Bloomberg running. At least he wants to get rid of Trump like most people.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
12. If he can beat Donald Trump, I'm all in.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020

Right now he's kicking the stuffing out of Trump.

The others are busy eating their own.

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blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
21. I'm still undecided but if Bloomberg gets the nomination he gets my vote.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020

Whoever can beat Trump, I'm in.

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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
13. The editor who wrote that piece is a Sanders surrogate who last week told people to tell
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:05 PM
Feb 2020

everyone they know NOT to vote for Warren:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287461983

Check that thread for what he was tweeting about Warren.

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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
14. An article full of lies. Not impressed.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020
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Shell_Seas

(3,334 posts)
15. If he gets the nom, Bloomberg it is. Anyone, but Trump.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020
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Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
17. Like others say, if he can beat Trump. that's all that pretty much matters
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020
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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
18. He has contributed to the mess we're in.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

Helping McConnell stay in power is huge for me, not to mention support shrub even the second time around... what kind of judgment is that!? Too much, we will be selling out our values even if he’s better than trump. We can beat trump by focusing more on voter turnout.

We can support investigative journalist Greg Palast’s enormous efforts to fix voter purges - he just won a case against Kemp in GA, working with Stacy Abrams, and has been on the case since Gore/FL: http://www.palastinvestigativefund.org/?StopThePurge2020

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Hearthrob

(84 posts)
30. turnout?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:28 PM
Feb 2020

"We can beat trump by focusing more on voter turnout."

How do you convert the republican Electoral College in 9 months?

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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
42. That is the problem that he helped create, and if he genuinely wants to help, put $ into Palast
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020

or someone else who’s fighting their voter purges.

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Celerity

(43,417 posts)
19. the author of that article, Nathan J. Robinson, is a piece of shit Democratic Party hater
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020

as evidence



SUPERPREDATOR
BILL CLINTON'S USE AND ABUSE OF BLACK AMERICA


https://portside.org/2017-06-15/bill-clinton-his-career-disaster-black-americans







Hillary Clinton's attacks on Tulsi Gabbard are embarrassing

Nathan Robinson

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/22/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard-embarrassing-paranoid

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Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
24. My head hurts.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:48 PM
Feb 2020

So will the real Mike Bloomberg please stand up? https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287496136

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Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
25. Democrats should read this before voting for donald trump
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:03 PM
Feb 2020

over Michael Bloomberg.

Trick OP: If you vote for donald trump or stay home, you are not a Democrat.

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Hearthrob

(84 posts)
26. hopefully-
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:07 PM
Feb 2020

I think if Bloomberg wanted to be in office he would still be there. Somewhere. Anywhere.

I worked in the Hopkins building that he helped fund. Can't be all bad. Not even gloating about his philanthropy. Not showing signs of narcissistic or delusional tendencies and no outright lying, at
least publicly.


Just have a feeling that he realizes that there is not a winner in the group and he's goading trump until he chokes on his own vomit.
Not pragmatic enough t o think that he would want to have less freedom in supporting his causes at this stage in his life in securing his legacy.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
27. The only thing that matters is defeating trump
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:15 PM
Feb 2020

I really do not care if Bloomberg is ideologically pure enough I am focused on beating trump and neither sanders nor Mayor Pete would have a chance against trump. Neither Mayor Pete nor sanders have any accomplishments that qualify them to be POTUS.

I am currently supporting Joe Biden but I will gladly support Bloomberg over Mayor Pete or sanders

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Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
38. I'd vote for my trash guy if he could beat Trump ass
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:43 PM
Feb 2020

I don't care,I've seen the EVIL that Trump spews. If he would win and take the House back that SOB would kill off every social program there is--or GUT them to the point of being worthless.

We don't need to guess if this will happen,we've seen this shit first hand now for almost four years.

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BKDem

(1,733 posts)
28. Democrats should vote against Donald Trump. Period.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:22 PM
Feb 2020

And to be on the safe side, I’d say we’ll need 86 million votes against the POS. No whining or staying home in a snit! No third-party protest votes! Do the right thing! Vote Trump and his Senate enablers the hell out!

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denem

(11,045 posts)
31. Bloomberg is my candidate of last resort.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:29 PM
Feb 2020

I'd go with Amy, Liz, Joe or Pete before Mike. He is what he is: A technocrat with a couple of liberal causes.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
32. The irony is that Sanders and the liberal left will be responsible for creating President Bloomberg.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:31 PM
Feb 2020

If Biden had cake walked to the nomination, Bloomberg would never had considered running. Now instead of having a solid life-long Democratic public servant as our nominee, we might very well get a centrist billionaire who has many conservative view points.

Thanks Bernie.

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Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
36. Voting for him anyway. He can take on Trump and WIN
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020
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people

(625 posts)
40. Wikipedia says of Bloomberg's political affiliations:
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020

"Bloomberg served as the 108th mayor of New York City, holding office for three consecutive terms, two terms as a Republican and one as an Independent beginning his first in 2002. A lifelong Democrat before seeking elective office, Bloomberg switched his party registration in 2001 to run for mayor as a Republican. He defeated opponent Mark J. Green in a close election held just weeks after the September 11 terrorist attacks. He won a second term in 2005 and left the Republican Party two years later. Bloomberg campaigned to change the city's term limits law and was elected to his third term in 2009 as an independent on the Republican ballot line. His final term as mayor ended on December 31, 2013."

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