Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDemocrats Should Read This Before Voting For Michael Bloomberg
The idea of Michael Bloomberg becoming the Democratic presidential nominee should be too absurd to even consider seriously. For one thing, he is a conservative who openly believes that the poor should be ruled over by the super-rich and is trying to buy the nomination outright. He has a history of saying monstrously offensive things about women and transgender people, and oversaw an infamous racist police regime that terrorized Black and Hispanic New Yorkers. If he did somehow manage to spend his way to the nomination, bypassing the democratic process, it would be such an outrageand so demoralizing to the Democratic basethat it would guarantee Trumps reelection. If the choice were between two sexist billionaires who hate the poor, how many young people would drag themselves to the polls to support our sides billionaire? It would permanently disillusion an entire generation and vindicate every cynical theory of politics as a domain where money rules absolutely.
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Its especially remarkable that Bloomberg has chosen to seek the Democratic nomination, because he wasnt actually a Democrat until right before starting this campaign, and ran for New York City mayor as a Republican. He supported war criminal George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. He set a record for donations to the New York Republican Party, and heaped piles of cash at the feet of city and state Republican leaders. In 2016, he spent $11.7 million helping Republican Pat Toomey keep his Senate seat, an election that Toomey won by less than two points and that helped Mitch McConnell maintain control of the Senate. He endorsed Scott Brown in his reelection campaign against Elizabeth Warren. Bloomberg not only backed Republicans in competitive and pivotal races but has also sunk money into Republican primaries on behalf of McConnell allies like Lindsey Graham and Thad Cochran. While Bloombergs donations have more recently leaned Democratican attempt to purchase political influence on his personal issues like gun controlhis support for New York Republicans helped maintain the state senates decades-long Republican majority, with all of the reactionary policy that entailed, like delaying marriage equality. This is what plutocratic governance looks like: billionaires deciding which party will be in charge, in accordance with their whims and policy preferences.
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Bloombergs own company was sued by 72 women who claimed the company discriminated against them by decreasing their pay, demoting them, and excluding them from other employment opportunities after they became pregnant, with one senior executive allegedly remarking Im not having any pregnant bitches working for me.
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Bloomberg has always opposed traditional Democratic policies for improving the lives of working people. He said he is not, and [has] never been in favor of raising the minimum wage (giving the usual discredited talking point about job loss), and as mayor vowed to veto a living wage bill, comparing it to Soviet Communism and promising to fight it in court. Bloomberg is a believer in trickle-down economics, whereby helping the rich helps the poor:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/02/a-republican-plutocrat-tries-to-buy-the-democratic-nomination
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)Plus, having two billionaires running for President is the start of a dystopian novelso we might want to avoid that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)People see "Republican" and assume he's conservative. He's really not.
I would prefer he not be the nominee, but I also think people have no idea where he stands on most issues and have chosen to pick and choose ones that make him look like a right-winger. He's pretty obviously not when his overall record is considered.
https://www.ontheissues.org/mike_bloomberg.htm
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/michael-bloomberg/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Bloomberg Pitches Program to Boost Black Economic Progress
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-19/bloomberg-pitches-program-to-boost-black-businesses-homeowners
Bloomberg tax proposal seeks to collect $5T from high-income taxpayers
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481031-bloomberg-tax-proposal-seeks-to-collect-5-trillion-from-high-income
Bloomberg Seeks to Limit Drug Patent Protection to Reduce Costs
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-27/bloomberg-seeks-to-limit-drug-patent-protection-to-reduce-costs
Bloomberg unveils plan to boost housing affordability, tackle homelessness
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480667-bloomberg-unveils-plan-to-boost-housing-affordability-tackle-homelessness
Bloomberg Proposes $1 Trillion Public Works Plan
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-22/michael-bloomberg-unveils-1-trillion-public-works-plan?srnd=politics-vp
Bloomberg donates $4.5M to U.N. climate body after U.S. cuts
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/michael-bloomberg-donates-4-5m-u-n-climate-body-after-n868266
Bloomberg gave $500M to clean energy effort
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-michael-bloomberg-500-million-clean-energy-20190607-v2lq7vufxjc2dj34jeganghh4i-story.html
He came out in support of marriage equality in 2005.
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2020/2/05/michael-bloomberg-his-lgbtq-priorities
Bloomberg statement on Black History month
https://www.mikebloomberg.com/news/statement-from-mike-bloomberg-on-black-history-month
Bloomberg gave Johns Hopkins $1.8 billion for financial aid
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/former-nyc-mayor-michael-bloomberg-giving-johns-hopkins-1-8-billion-financial-aid/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Bloomberg Pitches Program to Boost Black Economic Progress
Bloomberg statement on Black History month
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)I'm not crazy about Bloomberg but I'll take him over Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LeftTurn3623
(628 posts)This race is looking like its coming down to Bernie & Bloomberg - If you think Bernie can beat Trump then no problem
If Biden would start preforming like he did the last debate we wouldn't be in this mess
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(50,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,870 posts)He would attract all those Republicans dissatisfied with Trump virtually assuring a victory for "Democrats" in the fall. Go Mitt!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)That doesnt match the article.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,054 posts)This is war.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"he wasnt actually a Democrat until right before starting this campaign" --
He was a Democratic mayor of NYC for 4 years.
And the source of the article, Current Affairs:
Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/current-affairs-magazine/
"LEFT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes.
Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Has he apologized fr supporting Toomey in 2016 since the candidate he gave money to voted to acquit. You've made a big deal out of Warren being a repub a quarter a century ago so why does Bloomberg et a pass on his very recent repub ties, including supporting Bush in his races?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)No, I only bring it up when Warren supporters attack Bloomberg for having been a Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
extvbroadcaster
(343 posts)If there was a JFK or an Obama in the race, it would be easy. But face it, the current field will lose to Trump. Only Bloomberg can shove it up Trump's ass. I will overlook Bloomberg's problems if it will get rid of Trump. 4 more years of Trump, unchained, is almost unthinkable. His mental state is deteriorating, and there is every indication that the military will follow him off a cliff. If he orders missile strikes and touched off WWIII, the country will be sorry they ever questioned Bloomberg running. At least he wants to get rid of Trump like most people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Right now he's kicking the stuffing out of Trump.
The others are busy eating their own.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Whoever can beat Trump, I'm in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)everyone they know NOT to vote for Warren:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287461983
Check that thread for what he was tweeting about Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,312 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,251 posts)Helping McConnell stay in power is huge for me, not to mention support shrub even the second time around... what kind of judgment is that!? Too much, we will be selling out our values even if hes better than trump. We can beat trump by focusing more on voter turnout.
We can support investigative journalist Greg Palasts enormous efforts to fix voter purges - he just won a case against Kemp in GA, working with Stacy Abrams, and has been on the case since Gore/FL: http://www.palastinvestigativefund.org/?StopThePurge2020
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
"We can beat trump by focusing more on voter turnout."
How do you convert the republican Electoral College in 9 months?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,251 posts)or someone else whos fighting their voter purges.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,417 posts)as evidence
SUPERPREDATOR
BILL CLINTON'S USE AND ABUSE OF BLACK AMERICA
https://portside.org/2017-06-15/bill-clinton-his-career-disaster-black-americans
Hillary Clinton's attacks on Tulsi Gabbard are embarrassing
Nathan Robinson
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/22/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard-embarrassing-paranoid
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)So will the real Mike Bloomberg please stand up? https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287496136
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)over Michael Bloomberg.
Trick OP: If you vote for donald trump or stay home, you are not a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hearthrob
(84 posts)I think if Bloomberg wanted to be in office he would still be there. Somewhere. Anywhere.
I worked in the Hopkins building that he helped fund. Can't be all bad. Not even gloating about his philanthropy. Not showing signs of narcissistic or delusional tendencies and no outright lying, at
least publicly.
Just have a feeling that he realizes that there is not a winner in the group and he's goading trump until he chokes on his own vomit.
Not pragmatic enough t o think that he would want to have less freedom in supporting his causes at this stage in his life in securing his legacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I really do not care if Bloomberg is ideologically pure enough I am focused on beating trump and neither sanders nor Mayor Pete would have a chance against trump. Neither Mayor Pete nor sanders have any accomplishments that qualify them to be POTUS.
I am currently supporting Joe Biden but I will gladly support Bloomberg over Mayor Pete or sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)I don't care,I've seen the EVIL that Trump spews. If he would win and take the House back that SOB would kill off every social program there is--or GUT them to the point of being worthless.
We don't need to guess if this will happen,we've seen this shit first hand now for almost four years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BKDem
(1,733 posts)And to be on the safe side, Id say well need 86 million votes against the POS. No whining or staying home in a snit! No third-party protest votes! Do the right thing! Vote Trump and his Senate enablers the hell out!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)I'd go with Amy, Liz, Joe or Pete before Mike. He is what he is: A technocrat with a couple of liberal causes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)If Biden had cake walked to the nomination, Bloomberg would never had considered running. Now instead of having a solid life-long Democratic public servant as our nominee, we might very well get a centrist billionaire who has many conservative view points.
Thanks Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
people
(625 posts)"Bloomberg served as the 108th mayor of New York City, holding office for three consecutive terms, two terms as a Republican and one as an Independent beginning his first in 2002. A lifelong Democrat before seeking elective office, Bloomberg switched his party registration in 2001 to run for mayor as a Republican. He defeated opponent Mark J. Green in a close election held just weeks after the September 11 terrorist attacks. He won a second term in 2005 and left the Republican Party two years later. Bloomberg campaigned to change the city's term limits law and was elected to his third term in 2009 as an independent on the Republican ballot line. His final term as mayor ended on December 31, 2013."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided