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Bernie won 45% of the non white vote in Iowa (Original Post) bluewater Feb 2020 OP
Good on Bernie! BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #1
Was that a double digit number? empedocles Feb 2020 #3
non-whites made up how much percentage of the vote I dare ask? 5%? beachbumbob Feb 2020 #2
Iowa is 90% white, so 10% minority. Probably double that in a Democratic caucus. bluewater Feb 2020 #7
I would never assume that twice as many participated in the caucus effort, need real beachbumbob Feb 2020 #11
So less than 18,000 non-whites would have voted..... George II Feb 2020 #16
Why are you discounting the voice of Minority Voters in Iowa? bluewater Feb 2020 #20
Who is "discounting the voice of Minority Voters in Iowa"? George II Feb 2020 #21
All eleven of them? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #4
10 awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #15
😆 underpants Feb 2020 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #5
Who is it you are referring to.... who is saying ehrnst Feb 2020 #9
It is beyond my comprehension how AA voters support Sanders...who famously said 'voting for Trump Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #30
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #32
Most of the AA in Iowa, who voted for Bernie, are college students whose ideology align with their Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #41
And they would have felt pressured to vote for him...when I lived in GA, I would never have Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #42
He does have "weak support" among African-Americans. It IS true, the polls bear it out. George II Feb 2020 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #34
Which polls are you talking about? Speaking the truth isn't "erasure", it's simply being truthful. George II Feb 2020 #35
You say falsehoods, but provide no links to such... ehrnst Feb 2020 #37
Post removed speaks volumes still_one Feb 2020 #50
i looked at the caucus results sheet, it didn't include ethnicity Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #6
Last time I checked, no voting result paper trail anywhere includes ethnicity. bluewater Feb 2020 #14
I could only find entrance polls not exit polls Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #19
They don't do exit polls in Iowa. nt. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #26
No such thing in Iowa. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #29
So then, "briebriejoy" is making stuff up (again)? George II Feb 2020 #33
She is fabricating once more...how do you know she is lying? Her lips are moving. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #39
briebriejoy is a fucking stooge Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #8
OMG - wasn't that like nine people? NYMinute Feb 2020 #10
+10000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #12
Is she voting 3rd party again in the GE? Amimnoch Feb 2020 #13
Source, please. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #17
Maybe she does not realize that asking peoples ethnicity when they come in to vote Peacetrain Feb 2020 #18
It's virtually impossible to do exit polling at a caucus. Certainly won't get accurate results. George II Feb 2020 #23
Ahh yep.. and it would be a fools errand.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #24
Let's see the numbers, Ms. Gray. George II Feb 2020 #22
Here's the negative part: Briahna voted for Jill Stein in 2016. MineralMan Feb 2020 #25
There's a video out that she did, grinning and giggling and bragging that she voted for Stein..... George II Feb 2020 #43
Bernie 2020! Duckerington Feb 2020 #27
There are four % AA in Iowa...and I wouldn't believe the Sanders campaign on any tweet...and she Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #28
Please, the margin of error on small sub-groups is enormous. This is completely meaningless tritsofme Feb 2020 #36
There is NO MARGIN OF ERROR. It was not a poll. bluewater Feb 2020 #45
It wasn't an election, it was a caucus, and there's no way anyone can pinpoint the ethnicity.... George II Feb 2020 #46
It was an election, it was just not a primary. bluewater Feb 2020 #47
Correct, sorry. Pledged delegates were elected. George II Feb 2020 #48
How do you suppose they inferred the race/ethnicity of each participant? tritsofme Feb 2020 #49
"Not gonna buy it, wouldn't be prudent" oasis Feb 2020 #38
More gaslighting from the BS camp. The caucuses Squinch Feb 2020 #40
Sanders has one of if most most diverse coalition booley Feb 2020 #44
Right. Jill Stein supporter Brianna Joy Gray, Hillary hating David Sirota, and Nina Turner. Got it still_one Feb 2020 #51
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. Was that a double digit number?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. non-whites made up how much percentage of the vote I dare ask? 5%?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. Iowa is 90% white, so 10% minority. Probably double that in a Democratic caucus.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:54 AM
Feb 2020

So why didn't anyone else do as well with minority voters as Bernie?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
11. I would never assume that twice as many participated in the caucus effort, need real
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020

data, not guesses

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. So less than 18,000 non-whites would have voted.....
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

Plus, this is according to the Sanders National Press Secretary who has been known to stretch the truth on twitter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
20. Why are you discounting the voice of Minority Voters in Iowa?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020

Not a good look.

So, we should ignore the votes of 18,000 minority voters?

That would seem.... well... desperate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Who is "discounting the voice of Minority Voters in Iowa"?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

Let's see how he fares in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.

"briebriejoy" (Sanders' National Press Secretary) is attempting to misrepresent Sanders' support among minority voters (and discounting the voice of minority voters supporting other candidates).

THAT is....well....desperate on the part of Sanders' National Press Secretary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,834 posts)
52. 😆
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020

I was going to comment "Both of them?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to bluewater (Original post)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. Who is it you are referring to.... who is saying
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:55 AM
Feb 2020

"We care about people of color"... untill they vote for the candidate we don't approve of?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
30. It is beyond my comprehension how AA voters support Sanders...who famously said 'voting for Trump
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

doesn't make you are racist' . Yes it does and most if not all White voters who voted for Trump are racist. But whatever...Iowa though is 4% AA- and no way to tell who got the tiny AA vote...and I don't believe Sanders will be the nominee based on his tiny amount of AA support ...nor should he. You are not being erased...it is just that there are very few AA voters who feel as you do...according to the most recent polls which were devastating for Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #30)

 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
41. Most of the AA in Iowa, who voted for Bernie, are college students whose ideology align with their
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:46 PM
Feb 2020

white peers who adore Bernie. They are not representative of the majority of us AA voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
42. And they would have felt pressured to vote for him...when I lived in GA, I would never have
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:30 PM
Feb 2020

gone to any caucus and let my neighbors know I was a Democrat...there would have been serious repercussions for my family...my kid and my husband would have suffered. You don't declare a party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. He does have "weak support" among African-Americans. It IS true, the polls bear it out.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:41 PM
Feb 2020

No one is trying to "erase black Bernie supporters", where do you get that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to George II (Reply #31)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Which polls are you talking about? Speaking the truth isn't "erasure", it's simply being truthful.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. You say falsehoods, but provide no links to such...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:49 PM
Feb 2020

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Speaking of absence of evidence... caucuses don't track ethnicity. So isn't quoting stats on the ethicity of the vote a 'falsehood?"


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,242 posts)
50. Post removed speaks volumes
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
6. i looked at the caucus results sheet, it didn't include ethnicity
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:54 AM
Feb 2020

so I call BS on BS claim.

The best you can say is that individual precincts with majority, minority people voted for Bernie. Which is not at all the same as saying that he won 45% of minorities.


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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. Last time I checked, no voting result paper trail anywhere includes ethnicity.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:59 AM
Feb 2020

So I imagine that number is obtained as it is usually obtained everywhere else, probably exit polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
19. I could only find entrance polls not exit polls
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020

perhaps you were more lucky

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
26. They don't do exit polls in Iowa. nt.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
29. No such thing in Iowa.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. So then, "briebriejoy" is making stuff up (again)?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
39. She is fabricating once more...how do you know she is lying? Her lips are moving.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:56 PM
Feb 2020
I don't believe anything that comes out of the Sanders campaign...the campaign that cried wolf...
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. briebriejoy is a fucking stooge
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:55 AM
Feb 2020

1. I'll wait to hear this from someone whose paycheck isn't dependent on them saying it

2. And exactly how big *IS* Iowa's nonwhite population? Enough to fill a baseball stadium?

3. I also see @ibrahimpols has me blocked like a coward...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
10. OMG - wasn't that like nine people?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
13. Is she voting 3rd party again in the GE?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

Her opinion on anything isn't worth the toilet paper I wipe my arse with.

I have no use for anyone whose supposed to be an ally that directly helped Trump get elected in the first place.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
17. Source, please.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

Briahna Gray doesn't seem to have provided one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
18. Maybe she does not realize that asking peoples ethnicity when they come in to vote
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:07 PM
Feb 2020

IS AGAINST THE LAW! where did this person come up with that?


This is where the Bernie crew lose me.. This is something Trump would do..

Exit polling who? Hmmmm no exit polling where I was, and the Bernie crew left in mass a hour earlier than anyone else. They did not stay to caucus. I mean that is okay, but even the Precinct Captains did not stay to gather votes.. Very Odd behavior

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. It's virtually impossible to do exit polling at a caucus. Certainly won't get accurate results.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
24. Ahh yep.. and it would be a fools errand..
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Let's see the numbers, Ms. Gray.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. Here's the negative part: Briahna voted for Jill Stein in 2016.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020

She's proud of that. So, who cares what she has to say? I mean, really...

If Bernie isn't the nominee, who do you think Briahna will vote for in 2020?

Every time you post some lame tweet from that person, the same question applies. She is not a Democrat. I don't care what she says. Why do you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. There's a video out that she did, grinning and giggling and bragging that she voted for Stein.....
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

....and now she's National Press Secretary for a democratic candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
28. There are four % AA in Iowa...and I wouldn't believe the Sanders campaign on any tweet...and she
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

provides no evidence...so sorry...I give Sanders no such credit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
36. Please, the margin of error on small sub-groups is enormous. This is completely meaningless
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
45. There is NO MARGIN OF ERROR. It was not a poll.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020

It was an actual, gasp, election.

Think about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
46. It wasn't an election, it was a caucus, and there's no way anyone can pinpoint the ethnicity....
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:15 PM
Feb 2020

....of any of the people who voted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
47. It was an election, it was just not a primary.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020

Think about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Correct, sorry. Pledged delegates were elected.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
49. How do you suppose they inferred the race/ethnicity of each participant?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:39 PM
Feb 2020

It had to be the entrance poll or some other sort of polls, the party didn’t collect race along with voter choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,392 posts)
38. "Not gonna buy it, wouldn't be prudent"
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,956 posts)
40. More gaslighting from the BS camp. The caucuses
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020

didn't record ethnicity and there were no exit polls.

Which means this is made up bullshit.

AGAIN from these people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
44. Sanders has one of if most most diverse coalition
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:56 PM
Feb 2020

That is why the accusation Sanders only appeals to white guys is so vexing.


Every Person of Color I talked too in Iowa who was going to caucus said they strongly supported Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,242 posts)
51. Right. Jill Stein supporter Brianna Joy Gray, Hillary hating David Sirota, and Nina Turner. Got it
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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