But this story's ending has yet to be written.

except, no!

Really?

yes. Much better than a 4th place showing for the supposed "front runner"

and it's way too early for there to be a happy hour influence on that thought

Love that!

It amazes me sometimes how the little guys get up high on things, I would think were already ferret-proofed!

Now we can watch Bernie jump and fall all his way to the POTUS!

If the Democratic Party is now Bernie's party, then I'm out.

Bernie will do the Democratic party what Corbyn did for Labour and put it on the path to losing the the corrupt and incompetent opposition because his own policies are an anathema to the vast majority. I'm not interested in being affiliated with a socialist political party.

That would make us republicans! So...NO.

Perfect.

then it is no longer the Democratic party, as Bernie is only a Democrat for a few months when running for president. The rest of the time he disparages the party, says both parties are the same, and shows contempt for our leaders.

If the Democratic party becomes the Bernie party and the republican party is clearly the Trump party, what happens to our democracy?

These real Democrats will not forget or forgive

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PUMAs are also gone from the memory banks these days.

Democratic Party.

For instance:

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along with one guy informing me that Democrats would be known as r wet public was soon. These people are not Democrats to begin with and I will work hard to protect the party and its platform from being destroyed Greens, Trumpers, and whoever.

and moderates. It belongs to progressives now. They recognise that middle of the road policies do nothing that the people desperately need.

need to actually show up at the polls.

The 18 to 29 year old voters are four years older this time. Those young adults were more likely to identify as liberals but were less likely to identify as Democrats. They are up for grabs so someone's got to get them.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2016/11/21/how-millennials-voted/

So there's hope they'll be even more fired up this time.

And that is WOC.

If one doesn't have the support of WOC, then one doesn't get the nomination. That's just math.

Bernie is opposed by many who have been active in the Democratic Party for a long long time. It is nowhere near his party now, and it may never become his party, even if he wins the nomination. But, if Bernie does win the Democratic nomination, there is a possible path forward for the party "to become his". That's a bridge he may be able to cross but only if he gets to it. If he wins both the nomination AND the presidency it becomes a possibility

I hate it when they don't show up to vote unless they get their way.

2018 was a good start:

"Among 18- to 29-year-olds, voter turnout went from 20 percent in 2014 to 36 percent in 2018, the largest percentage point increase for any age group — a 79 percent jump."

GOTV!

taking back control of the House for Democrats.

they do the same thing.

They simply provide one or two anecdotes, and project a totality from that. I suppose if one is unable to provide data, simply making the allegation is the next best step... and then throw it at the wall in hopes it sticks.

Natch.

Bernie is giving a voice to those people as they are familiar with him after his run in 2016. So is Warren is also giving a voice to these people, albeit in a different manner.

Senator from Massachusetts. She would be a vastly better and more credible leader of the progressive wing of the party. She's a person I could easily support if she won the nomination even though I am not a "progressive".

Democrats to team up with her for a common purpose. That's something Bernie is incapable of.

He wouldn't have a clue where to begin if he actually had power.

We don't need a version of the Trump Republicans.

not a Berniecrat.

socialist hiding in the woods.

If you want an ideologically fairly pure social democratic party, then move to a nation that has proportional representation, like where I live, Sweden.

Pro tip, if you do walk into a social democratic party and tell them you are a democratic socialist, odds are fairly high they direct you to an actual socialist party, such as Vänsterpartiet. You will then go there and finally realise that what people like me have been saying all along is correct: Bernie and many of his supporters are not democratic socialists in reality. The are just bog standard social democrats who are using a thoroughly false self-labelling as democratic socialists to play avant-garde lefty.

The only other way you will have a pure enough left party here is to start a 3rd party in the US, which will end in tears and do nothing but guarantee the fucking Rethugs will win the VAST majority of all elections at a federal level. There is zero chance you will drag the US Democratic party far enough to the left to satisfy a Bernie type. It will not happen for decades, if ever.

The first past the post, single member district, majoritarian American system simple will not allow it to happen without the utter destruction of the current 2-party alignment, which by that very same systemic upheaval means the RW will run riot for decades as they will draw in far greater numbers of people fleeing the far left than the far left will gain themselves. This would be the case until at least most all the Boomers have died off, and probably most of the first half or so of the Gen Xers, as those cohorts are not only far more conservative than the Gens that follow, but will grow a bit more conservative as an overall percentage with age, and will continue to vote at a higher percentage as well.

Maybe.

Ask again on March 4. It may be clearer then.