I remember reading this in 2016 and seeing it earlier. It is ultimately what the "establishment" have been wanting to do. For real?

Warren from Sanders, Biden, and Buttigieg camps was disingenuous all around.

having that conversation as if it is a serious issue.

Bernie now making a paper show of beating Trump by the most. If he’s the nominee, regardless his soft soaping M4All, he will be soundly knee capped, and a winning personality won’t help him
out. Fantasy Revolution will not beat Trump.

Trump is getting exactly what he wants right now. Biden said “don’t let Trump choose our nominee.” Well...

adhere to the Democratic Platform... Bernie is nothing special... in the real world he will not be able to do all the things he has promised... Vermont likes Bernie, but we cannot even implement the policies Bernie is spouting...

we must consider the Electoral College and function in the real world right now!!

We are a Center/Left Country and they will not vote for Bernie or Mayor Pete. We have a lot of politically naive folks who just want all the freebies. trump will destroy them.

phased in. It always started in first year of office. Sanders has talked about it re lowering age of eligibility whenever he has discussed the details.

The difference with Warren’s transition is that she doesn’t even introduce Medicare For All u til her 3rd year in office.

It was well documented in many articles. Here is one from December 2019

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/476396-sanders-speed-of-medicare-for-all-push-is-a-major-difference-with-warren

Seriously strange that people are “discovering” this now.

to her transition timeline vs Sanders’ transition timeline.

end of his first term. Warren wouldn’t even start until her lame duck year. That’s a huge difference in my opinion. But everyone gets to decide which they prefer. To act as if Sanders hasn’t been clear from the beginning is odd.

to the point she was being called a phony, a liar and a corporatist tool.

Their timelines were different. They are both goals, and both will be met with major obstruction.

The pile on attacks on Warren were disproportionate. And wrong.

It’s a bad idea. Not even trying until your last year means it won’t happen unless Warren gets a second term. Sanders starts immediately and would be completed before end of first term. Waiting 3 years to start implementing a 4 year transition is just not a good idea to many people.

because his plan will never get passed through Congress.

anything done it certainly makes sense not to have a decent plan to try.

A public option will do nothing to bring down cost of healthcare. Will be more expensive to implement. Will continue using taxpayer dollars to supplement ridiculous premiums to private health insurers and will cause the public option to be a high risk pool that will be unaffordable for many.

So why try something bold? Lets do nothing. Inspirational.

Bernie has been saying this is the plan for a long time now. If you are going to question what he wants to do at least been informed enough to get it right.

on Democrats and our party these last five years have been bogus. Not that it has not been evident to most of us. Hence the most support combines hands down going for a Democrat.

No more. Not even how he would get it done, but revolution of the people forcing congress to do their will. And who knows how much it costs.

I think they did not back it because Sanders has a 4 year process and Warren's was longer.

...gets slammed either way...

...one time he's moving too fast and will crash the employer-based healthcare system, now he's moving too slow to socialize it...

...the fact is, Bernie is committed to overhauling the healthcare system making it much more affordable and open to all...

...be happy, Bernie will lead us in that much needed direction...

...Bernie can do it...

fighting for exactly this. We all knew it was the only way it could be done. For five years Sanders has accused the Democratic leaders of being heartless and not for the average person. And now, he agrees? And we are not suppose to be bothered?

insults used to bash Democrats. Or will it?

but they can not double up on what M4A already provides. Medicare will pay for physical therapy, I have a supplemental so I have a 40 dollar co pay on PT. My neighbor doesn't have a supplemental so Medicare pays for all of hers.

Sometime this year. Not saying whether it was there previously

Medicare currently has 64 million people in 2019

Us population is 329 million

To make math easier let me use 300 million as the number of people who would be added to the new medicare.

If there were 6 steps over 6 years that would be 50 million people a year moved to the new coverage. I know it’s not quite like that because each 10 group isn’t the same size.

Hospitals (which are biased) claim medicare reimbursement rates cover 90% of costs. The reimbursements have to go up.

Doctors will also have to change their billing, etc and also will argue about rates.

The IT infrastructure has to handle significant growth doubling in the first year.

This is the “let’s not screw up big time in the delivery” argument. If hospitals close or we screw up the IT the plan will fail.

We have to get on a universal coverage plan. I am not arguing against that.

I still think buy in as the next step is more politically palatable (keep your plan and lower cost). And it makes the first step smaller and easier to not mess up.

Reality is that the phase in will also be slower because of funding anyway.

so moot point.

He will do anything to win this time.

A sow phase in to single payer over time so as to not disrupt the market?

Sanders' plan is way too aggressive and would result in some harsh economic conditions before the ever got everybody on it. It would then be rolled back because there are too many jobs in the insurance industry currently. Have to go mush slower than Sanders is promising.

to keep the economy from crashing and to make sure everything works. It may take more than 1 year between the age drops. Understand that medicare IS NOT FREE. You pay for drugs, medicare supplement plans, and they take money out of your social security check every month. The amount depends on income, not on preexisting conditions, so that's good.

It was so wrong for Warren to be attacked from all ends, by opponents who knew they were being disingenuous and some who were downright lying.

If the SCOTUS of 2010 could strike down the mandate for states to participate in the ACA's Medicaid expansion, what do you think a 2022 SCOTUS is going to do when states refuse to take part in a Medicare expansion?

And if if anyone thinks that Medicare for All can simply be run at the federal level, and bypass state participation in administration, they're ignoring how Canada has to make it work, and they don't have nearly the population we do.

That hasn't been addressed at all.

Promise THEM anything, as long as you get their vote!

its a 4 year transition....55 and older first, then each age group below transitioned in.....not true that it's a new plan for Bernie....

To transition it in in 4 years, working its way down the ages (except children get it right away).

Bernie's M4A transition plan is a complete fantasy, IMO. You think Healthcare.gov was a mess? This would make that look like a walk in the park.