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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:11 PM Feb 2020

Who wins: Bloomberg or Trump?


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Trump
10 (26%)
Bloomberg
28 (74%)
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Who wins: Bloomberg or Trump? (Original Post) Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 OP
I don't think Bloomberg will get the nomination, but he can definitely impact who the Democratic still_one Feb 2020 #1
Bernie should be going into his 2nd term Go Vols Feb 2020 #2
FYI, one needs to win a primary, then a General to serve a first term let alone a second term. ehrnst Feb 2020 #4
One also needs to survive a primary before one can be re-elected. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #12
Indeed... ehrnst Feb 2020 #19
How is that possible? George II Feb 2020 #10
Bloomberg needs a black, female progressive on the ticket. Nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #13
Bloomberg's main national weakness is that he's a massive tool Recursion Feb 2020 #5
Bloomberg slaughters Trump Mike 03 Feb 2020 #6
When the public learns about Bloomberg - he will deflate voter turnout by young Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #7
Yep. redqueen Feb 2020 #9
Trump winning is not an option. Period. denem Feb 2020 #8
Trump would beat Bloomberg. I have no doubt. redqueen Feb 2020 #11
Yep. How more people don't get that is just mind-boggling. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #15
Bloomberg destroys Trump ElementaryPenguin Feb 2020 #14
Trump would beat Bloomberg. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Feb 2020 #17
... Donkees Feb 2020 #18
Maybe he wins one term. Next term there will be a 3rd party, and it will be crushing to Dems. floppyboo Feb 2020 #20
Bloomberg would win very easily gollygee Feb 2020 #21
 

still_one

(92,488 posts)
1. I don't think Bloomberg will get the nomination, but he can definitely impact who the Democratic
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

nominee will be


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Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
2. Bernie should be going into his 2nd term
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:10 AM
Feb 2020

neither

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
4. FYI, one needs to win a primary, then a General to serve a first term let alone a second term.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:39 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie lost the primary by nearly 4 million, so "should be going into his second term" isn't logical.

You're welcome.



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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
12. One also needs to survive a primary before one can be re-elected.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:43 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie wanted Obama out in 2012. What’s good for the goose...

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George II

(67,782 posts)
10. How is that possible?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020
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Quixote1818

(29,008 posts)
3. Bloomberg needs a black, female progressive on the ticket. Nt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 04:18 AM
Feb 2020
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Bloomberg's main national weakness is that he's a massive tool
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:53 AM
Feb 2020

But, since I assume there will be no national debates this cycle, that isn't actually debilitating. Hell, Romney is a massive tool and he came damn close to beating Obama.

As long as his TV appearances are kept to a minimum, I think he'd do pretty well against Trump.

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. Bloomberg slaughters Trump
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:57 AM
Feb 2020

First, he has sociological and psychological advantages no other candidate has over Trump. (I doubt Trump would even debate him.)

Secondly, damned near every independent who still has a working brain cell will vote for Bloomberg.

Three, he siphons off Republicans.

He wins in purple states. He helps down ballot candidates, not just by being on the ballot but with money.

There would be blood on the tracks.

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Nanjeanne

(5,003 posts)
7. When the public learns about Bloomberg - he will deflate voter turnout by young
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:00 AM
Feb 2020

and minorities and Trump will win. The ads write themselves.

Audio of @MikeBloomberg’s 2015 @AspenInstitute speech where he explains that “you can just Xerox (copy)” the description of male, minorities 16-25 and hand to cops.

Bloomberg had video of speech blocked.

his explanation for #stopandfrisk, admitting that all the cops are sent to minority neighborhoods

BLOOMBERG: "OMG, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities. YES! That's true because we put all the cops in the minority neighborhoods...because that's where ALL the crime is...& the way you get the guns is...throw them up against the walls & frisk them."




In this clip, the Democratic Establishment’s knight in oligarch’s armor explains why regressive taxes are necessary to help poor people from their bad habits of drinking sugary sodas.



Enforcing food stamp work requirements in NYC during the Great Recession -when every other state in the US (except Delaware) waived them.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
9. Yep.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

#BloombergIsRacist is trending.

I would say it's odd that the media didn't pick up on this before, but then, ad $


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denem

(11,045 posts)
8. Trump winning is not an option. Period.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:02 AM
Feb 2020
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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
11. Trump would beat Bloomberg. I have no doubt.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:41 PM
Feb 2020

Having Bloomberg as our nominee will depress turnout for our side. Significantly.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
15. Yep. How more people don't get that is just mind-boggling.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020
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ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
14. Bloomberg destroys Trump
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:49 PM
Feb 2020

Just as he would in any business setting.

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k2qb3

(374 posts)
16. Trump would beat Bloomberg.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:29 PM
Feb 2020

I think the membership here has a very mistaken idea about what independents don't like about the Democratic party.

An authoritarian like Bloomberg will be a disaster. It isn't just about race, that stuff is a reflection of the real problem.

He doesn't have enough respect for civil rights generally.

That's also why the electability of Sanders and Warren is significantly underestimated here, and in political discourse generally.

Education, health care, corruption, justice, environment, those are all winning issues.

Half the stuff I hear people criticizing Bernie for are positives with independents. Trump is going to get the wall street crowd, can't pander to them and be good on those other things at the same time anyway.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
20. Maybe he wins one term. Next term there will be a 3rd party, and it will be crushing to Dems.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:48 PM
Feb 2020
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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
21. Bloomberg would win very easily
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:48 PM
Feb 2020

The question is whether we aren't shooting high enough. Like if we end up after the GE saying, yeah Bloomberg won, but what if we could have won with Elizabeth Warren? So we have to decide how much of a chance the other candidates have against Trump, and whether it's worth going for a candidate who is not ideal but can win easily.

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