He does at the NV debate.

that he got in too late to be on the NV ballot.

Nt

Yachting ?

Eom

Homeless people flying to his city first-class just so they can move into his homeless shelters and be taken care of by New York. Oh and that he said he would never support a minimum wage, well until this past December when he finally changed his mind. I wonder what happened recently that could’ve changed his mind?

I know what my answer is. I will donate to the campaign of a real billionaire, rally support for him and certainly vote for him in November. I won't have anything remotely to do with reelecting a monster.

That wasn’t really the question. The OP is literally trying to talk themselves into supporting Bloomberg, if the time comes. I believe they should have all relevant data about him. It’s no secret that I don’t like Bloomberg. I won’t support him unless he gets to the general. Right now, I don’t see that happening so I’m not stressing over it. We’ll see where things land after Super Tuesday. Other than that, I hope you’re having a good day and good luck to your candidate tomorrow!

for him when he heads South. Bloomberg is already at 20% with AA in SC. Pete is struggling in the low single digits. It will be tough sledding for him in the South

I'll simply hold my nose and vote for the Democratic nominee.

No more. No less.

He's not trying to be a party purist. He wants to beat Trump.

he ain’t Trump.

It would be nice to win the Presidency, Senate and keep the House. He may be ther best bet tho do all three.

If he is, would that help?

the money that we donate can go to down ticket democrats. It is a win-win situation for us and puts republicans in more of a bind than they already are. Of course, if Bloomberg asks for donations, I will certainly give, but with him making $1 billion plus in carried interest between now and November, it is unlikely that he really will need any money from us.

I like the fact that he is all in on this race.

Because if that's what we are going to go with in November, we are going to lose. We need an actual platform with issues.

And if I have to vote for Bloomberg, I'm going to have to get plenty drunk before that happens.

He's not on my list of favorites, but I don't think he's what the conventional wisdom here seems to think he is, either.

I'm not sure why people think he's some kind of conservative, because his record and his stances on the issues place him pretty firmly on the left side of the fence. I think people get hung up on the rich white guy thing and the fact that he was a Republican for a while and don't really look into what his positions are and have been.

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/michael-bloomberg/

https://www.ontheissues.org/mike_bloomberg.htm

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Bloomberg's administration of NYC was progressive. He had some policy stinkers, but if you look at any candidate in the field except maybe Warren, ALL of them have backed problematic things at some point, but no don't.

I had a similar thought earlier about the candidates. It's human nature to fixate on the things with which we disagree, and we can find them with any candidate if we try hard enough. That's when a big picture perspective can be helpful.

As you noted, Bloomberg has some doozys, but they seem more like exceptions than the norm where his overall record is concerned. Of course, any one issue can be a deal-breaker for anyone, which is understandable.

Fundamentally, they disgust me. They are the reason why we are where we are.

of his ads. He is the ONLY one that is actually fighting tRump, not another Democrat.
And he isn't even my first choice. I'm just stating facts as I see them.

y’all are gonna have to suck up to the notion of voting Bloomberg.

That said, my fervent hope is neither of those decisions will be necessary.

It is a very intelligent set of plans to deal with every single problem that we have today, not wild blue-sky shit, just solid plans that will have us much farther ahead in his first year in office.

That can probably lose the election. Anyone that runs on taking benefits away from Union members will struggle

Unlikely to happen. He committed, through the foundation started by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, to give away his fortune in 2010 and has since donated billions to various charities and causes. It will be tough to label him just another rich guy out for personal gain when he's already pledged to give it all away.

Bernie Sanders talks about doing something about climate change, but WHAT has he done personally? Bloomberg has personally paid $4.5 million dollars for the last three years to keep the US current in the Paris Climate Agreement. He has ALLOCATED $500 million dollars to a project to transition the world to 100% clean energy by 2030ish. What has Bernie done? Has Bernie given say $50,000 of his own to a clean energy effort? I seriously doubt it. Yet, there are those that consider Bernie far more serious about climate change reversal than Bloomberg, that is just a fucking stupid conclusion, the personal committment of Bloomberg is simply far greater.

He's had decades to get those notions off the ground, but he's never been able to get enough support, even from members of the party with which he caucuses. Some would argue that he doesn't have the resources Bloomberg does, but that's what Congress is supposed to be for.

a portion of my wealth to energy conservation, production efforts and waste abatement (waste that don't go into landfills and pollute water).

Bloomberg is worth $62 billion, $513.5 million (to keep us in the Paris Accord) is like $16,564 for someone worth $2 million like Bernie. Has Bernie personally given $16,564 directly to combatting climate change? Some of his supporters will say that he does lifestyle stuff, what progressive DOESN'T do the exact same? So lifestyle stuff is not good enough for Bernie, the rest of us aren't running for President and making all types of pronouncements.

Which will improve our chances to win the Senate witch again helps our position with judge confirmation.

There is plenty of criticism, much of it warranted in my opinion, of centrist Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. But you can't argue with the their judicial appointments. I don't want Bloomberg but i'm prepared to get behind him.

NYC is larger than most states. If his policies were not in line with the people, he would not have been re-elected. But he was, twice.

If "purity" got its way in 2016 Sanders would have been the nominee and the winner.

Bernie Sanders ran in a FAIR, competitive party primary and lost. At that point, it was imperative upon us all to support the party nominees to insure that we got a lot of what we needed done. Some people were too pure to support our nominee and we lost key states because of that stupidity.

You can claim that Bernie would have done better in the General, but what smidgen of proof do you have? You have a projection based upon your political bent, that is worthless. We are where we are and some people that are doing the loudest complaining today got us here.

You need a microscope to find a republican in NYC.

NYC is a very liberal city. Bloomberg won election there three times. That is the point that I saw the poster making - the claim that Bloomberg doesn't appeal to left people is horseshit if one looks at his electoral history in NYC.

Democrats pick their nominees from the bottom up. Bloomberg is trying to buy the nomination from going from the top down. He isnt building a base of support, he is trying to buy it. Sanders is the only one who has a hardcore base of loyal support. He would have beaten trump in 2016 and he will beat him in 2020.

Maybe it’s time to win one the same way, except with a much better message and goals.

Yeah, I don’t like it either, but it’s better than getting slaughtered running Sanders or Warren. I have about 40 days to decide/reconsider.

1. Great work with voter mobilization in Virginia last year, he's put in some bona fides.
2. Best trash-talker since Obama.
3. He might have personal attack teflon. This is a personal impression, but his wealth (murica loves her rich white guys in suits, ask my senator-until-I-move-to-Texas-on-Friday Rick Scott), shifting party affiliation, and quasi-celebrity status would make it hard to get a firm wrestling grasp on him.
4. Again, the celebrity thing. My presidential preference list started with Obama, Springsteen, Hanks, Winfrey, Bon Jovi, Ford, Grohl. People don't want experienced politicians for high elected office. Bloomberg is a household name beyond his political office-holding.

I think time will tell, especially with the next few weeks when he enters the fray. I'm looking to see him signal he's with the center of the party (not the same as the "centrist" center of the electorate) on what I call "economic predation issues" (as well as seeing if anyone else catches fire first). In other words, how much can preogressives push him to become his better self? Seems to have worked for the GOP on their end with Trump.

But I remember they aren't Trump and I know I can cope with no toe tingling.

and no branding issues.

Bush. Of course if he gets the nomination I will have to vote for him but I would do so holding my nose.

I am voting today. My choice may become the nominee. Or not. But I don’t need to warm up to whoever becomes the candidate. And nor should anyone here. Vote blue no matter who.