Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBloomberg's spokesman said that he is afraid that Bernie voters will stay home if Bloomberg
in particular wins, "given the way he's getting there". He went on to say that he thinks they will be very upset and wonder if this is a legitimate process.
After he said this, Joe Scarborough then tried to frantically save him by saying how Trump will unify the Democrats to vote against him.
The spokesman's name is Steve Rattner and he was introduced as a person works with Bloomberg and who takes care of his money.
*For anyone that DVRd Morning Joe, the quote occurred at around 8:39 this morning.*
I will say right here that Bloomberg will further divide this party and we will have Trump. This is a risk that he is aware of and is obviously prepared to take just to satisfy his own personal ambitions.
Get prepared to welcome a re-elected Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,962 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,005 posts)won't vote for a socialist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,962 posts)Bloomberg is complaining about Sanders supporters he needs to do something to get their vote. Nothing is a given.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
onetexan
(13,043 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,962 posts)He is last on my list and if he thinks he wont get it, thats on him. He needs to work on Sanders voters if hes concerned.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dalton99a
(81,527 posts)Bloomberg has a far more substantial resume, and the guy is truly filthy rich. He doesn't need a job. He doesn't need to solicit bribes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,043 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,836 posts)Nonsense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Malmsy
(297 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)say they won't vote for him?
Interesting supposition.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sorry not getting it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,873 posts)a lot of long time Democrats may have trouble voting for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,873 posts)What's next? Mitt Romney becomes a Democrat and then becomes our candidate in 2028?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)And I am very committed to voting blue no matter who.
TBH, I would probably look to trade my vote with someone in a swing state who doesn't want to vote for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,679 posts)Most likely Bloomberg will win that battle but many of the Sanders people will be so pissed they wont vote or might vote for someone else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,956 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,324 posts)Im acquainted with a half dozen of them and theyre pledging to pull that toddler crap again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,111 posts)given his support for Bush/ Cheney and financing other republicans. If he manages to get the nomination Trump will win in a landslide.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,376 posts)What a doofus.
How about, "We look forward to getting Mike's message out to all Democrats including Bernie Sanders supporters and showing why he's the best candidate to take on Trump this November?"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,314 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,956 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,314 posts)By winning primaries and caucuses and getting the most delegates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,679 posts)But a Bloomberg win might generate a bit more anger as the Sanders wing will have an obvious complaint that he bought the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I supported Bernie in 2016 and wholeheartedly supported Hillary in the general. I'd have a hard time doing so with Bloomberg, and I've never had trouble supporting a Democratic nominee for president before. It's not just Bernie supporters who would have a hard time with Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cherryinpa
(301 posts)I don't know why all these Bloomberg supporters are not seeing this.
We know based on data from 2016 that 90% of the Bernie Bro's will eventually fall into line and vote for Biden. We don't need to get all negative on Bernie supporters; they want Trump out as much as we do even though we may disagree with their methods. They will vote for Klobuchar and Warren too. Warren is actually a very natural shift for them.
But stick in Bloomberg - a Republican Billionaire?
Just imagine the counter-reaction from the left that will cause.
Bloomberg almost guarantee's a win to Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,173 posts)For registered Democrats, it will be less of a problem.
I won't be happy to vote for a billionaire, but I'll do it to beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cherryinpa
(301 posts)The jump is too far. Eventually Team Bernie will fall into line and go along with Biden/Klobuchar/Warren, there is no other choice for them, but can you imagine the reaction from AOC if Bloomberg or Steyer get in?
Bloomberg may make people feel good because he's got money and desire to get Trump out, but he's doing the wrong thing. By sucking supporters away from Biden he's hurting the best chance we've got.
If he takes down Biden, then what? Will he come after Klobuchar / Warren.
When does this stop?
One we have a Republican nominee leading the Democratic party OR Bernie is annointed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,251 posts)that block of votes between them and Bloomberg, which will result in less delegates for each, and improves the odds that Sanders will have the most delegates going into the convention.
If that is the case, and Sanders becomes the nominee, I believe not only will trump get four more years, but we will also lose Congress
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bloomberg needs to be disqualifed and removed, he's only hurting Bidens chances and guaranteeing 5 more years of thuggery.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,251 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)Disqualified as a Republican using his money to pretend his a Democrat.
If Biden can't make it then the default should be Klobuchar then Warren two other Democrat women who DESERVE this.
Yes, DESERVE, I used the D-word.
Bloomberg does not DESRVE the respect of this party.
Sorry, I don't know how we got into this mess, I'm just calling it like it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,251 posts)Sentiment, and think a lot of us share it, but it isn't violating any rules
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)and reject him. He and Biden would both end up with around 15% each, while Bernie slips past them with 25%.
Because if people believe that everyone will jump ship and leave Biden, thereby giving Bloomberg the full 30% that the moderate lane holds, they are sorely mistaken. I, for one, am not going anywhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,251 posts)the Iowa and NH primary, along with the over-stating of the National polls.
The other factor that I believe will hurt us is the Open primaries, and the intent of the republicans to vote in those open primaries for the Democratic candidate they believe will fare the worst against trump, which I believe is Sanders.
Everything will depend on Super Tuesday, but I really think the Democrats are heading toward a very precarious and divisionary situation
going into the Convention
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,278 posts)https://stevenrattner.com/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)He is an insider who has a stake in Bloomberg's run, so call him what you like.
Excerpt from a previous article:
Bloomberg allies and Democratic operatives say for the former New York City mayor to have a shot at the nomination, Iowa and the other three February contests would have to produce a muddled result, leaving the current national polling leader, Joe Biden, in a weakened position.
That could provide a lane for Bloomberg to swoop in as the moderate alternative that Biden was supposed to be, countering whichever progressive candidates are still standing particularly Bernie Sanders.
If Biden wins Iowa and then New Hampshire ... it may well be game over, for Bloomberg, Steve Rattner, an ally of the former mayor, said on MSNBC this week. However, Rattner continued, if Biden does poorly in Iowa, that raises Mike Bloomberg as the possible alternative to Bernie Sanders, and thats exactly the calculus.
Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article239811293.html#storylink=cpy
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)CNBC had a segment how Warren is dangerous for Wall Street and the Bernie Bros mansplained on Twitter how the hosts ACTUALLY meant Sanders.
The other day there was a tweet about Jill Stein and some guy with Bernie2020 in his tag tweeted how he loves watching liberals get triggered.
Some Bernie-voters will DEFINITELY stay home if Sanders doesn't win the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,325 posts)Bloomberg will bring more Independent and GOP voters than he loses. He will only lose the Jill Stein/Bernie Brother voters.
The historic Blue wave of 2018 was fueled by center right voters in swing and Trump districts across the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
writes3000
(4,734 posts)Watch and see how they rally for Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
writes3000
(4,734 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)my support for Biden. This will result in a split of the moderate/black vote (Biden getting 15% / Bloomberg getting 15%) and Bernie running away with the nomination at 25%+.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,679 posts)Like Harris, Rice or Abrams?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BKDem
(1,733 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)stupider now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)Sanders will divide the party, lose to Trump and we will lose the House. A Democratic socialist will not win. That said it's Bernie and his Looney surrogates goung after our Candidates, not Mike
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
broiles
(1,368 posts)And look what I got-- a nutty two year old for a president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
broiles
(1,368 posts)I was angry at the DNC for rail roading Hillary down our throats.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
spicysista
(1,663 posts)If it comes down to Sanders and any one of the billionaires, we will not win in the general. It really doesn't matter who emerges as the winner.
I've worked with the same group of voters since I was 9. It started off with me bringing them water as they waited in the lines, to driving them to the polls, and to now raising money for buses and other supplies. I'm not talking about a few dozen people, I'm talking hundreds.
These are the same core (straight ticket) voters who've never missed any elections (local or national). They are dedicated toward building the Democratic party and have serious reservations about whats been going on in party (national), lately. They're concerned about who actually has coattails. For them, voting is not an exercise of ideals. It's a matter of life and death for their loved ones (they don't really worry for themselves). So having a person who can pull along state and local democrats (you know where most stuff gets done) is paramount for all of them. Pragmatic is the word.
I always try to be hopeful. Being around these types of people is always a treat. But, they're worried and that worries me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)It is a diverse group that potentially encompasses tens of millions. Sanders does not have control over their choices. I don't have a doubt in the world that a self funding Multi Billionaire who endorsed George W. Bush for President at the 2004 Republican Convention will lose a lot of "Sanders voters" even if Bernie personally campaigns for him and people like me go out door knocking for him. To pretend otherwise is beyond naive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)If it isn't Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)Because you will never convince them. They will just waste your time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,314 posts)"Steven Lawrence Rattner (born July 5, 1952) is an American financier who served as lead adviser to the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry in 2009 for the Obama administration.[1] He is currently chairman and chief executive officer of Willett Advisors LLC, the private investment group that manages billionaire former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg's personal and philanthropic assets. He continues to be involved in public policy matters as the economic analyst for MSNBC's Morning Joe, and as a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times op-ed page."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Rattner
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,314 posts)It appears that Rattner has no role in Bloomberg's campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,314 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gollygee
(22,336 posts)We all have to vote for whoever gets the nomination. People's lives really do depend on this. It isn't about finding your dream person. It's about taking the bus. If one isn't going to your exact destination, you get on the one that will get you as close as possible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden