Democratic Primaries
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I think they just might. I suspect that most people are going to shrug off those early indicators, since so much is riding on Super Tuesday, just a month later. With California, Minnesota, and other states jumping on the Super Tuesday Primary Bandwagon, it seems to me that New Hampshire and Iowa matter much less in 2020.
New Hampshire, because it's a small state and likely to support a more or less local favorite. Iowa, because it's a caucus state and didn't help much in the 2016 primary to sort out the front-runners.
In 2020, Minnesota is likely to represent the Midwest, with California representing, well, its own enormous self. The total number of convention delegates that will come out of the Super Tuesday primaries is going to be an excellent indication of who the top leaders will be.
So, if I were a primary candidate, I'd be ignoring Iowa and New Hampshire, pretty much, and spending all of the early money I could come up with in Super Tuesday states, strategically selecting states where I might do well.
Everything is about to be turned upside down. The old politics is running out of time. There's a new political reality that is about to make itself very apparent in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,177 posts)they have out-sized influence in the race. Glad to see California move up it's primary however. California is a state that is much more representative of the nation than the tiny, rural non-diverse states. Iowa is also tainted because caucuses are much more undemocratic than primary elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Iowa and New Hampshire still hold an outsized influence on the narrative and on who will make it to Super Tuesday.
Iowa and New Hampshire are crucial states for certain candidates especially. For Klobuchar, I'd say a very strong showing in Iowa is vital. For the New Englanders and others, New Hampshire will be vital. The underdogs need a strong showing in the first couple of states in order to build momentum and further their support (in terms of funding and votes).
Sanders is unique in that he ran last time. If the 2016 demographic data holds, it won't matter how well he does in IA and NH...except in the sense that he will impact how others do in those states, which - again - will impact who continues to receive funding. Everyone impacts one another in very important ways.
The first couple of states will always be consequential, which is all the more reason to have those states be ones that actually reflect our electorate. And no more caucuses.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nycbos
(6,039 posts)Given it's 50% African American.
When Hillary won by almost 50 points I knew then it was over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)Keep in mind that I'm talking just about donors in this thread. Not voters. Who will get the donations, I think, won't be determined until Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nycbos
(6,039 posts)Say Harris wins South Carolina. That could mobilize support amongst grassroots African-American donors.
This all hypothetical at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)In the meantime, people are going to jump in, jump out, and jump through whatever hoops they can.
Personally, I think it's all way, way too early to be seriously talking about 2020. But, it's not my call.
I'm watching it all, but I'm not going to get personally involved until near the end of this year. I have other things to do, and a living to earn.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
4139
(1,893 posts)Can he/she recover from the poor start... will be the good press!
Then comes Nevada and South Carolina
Super Tuesday will trim the field to 2-3.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)Some things have changed, and the media knows about those changes.
Besides, I was very clear. I was talking about campaign donors, not voters and not the media. Conventional wisdom is always subject to change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,493 posts)So, if I were a primary candidate, I'd be ignoring Iowa and New Hampshire, pretty much, and spending all of the early money I could come up with in Super Tuesday states, strategically selecting states where I might do well.
Donors (a word which appeared just once in the subject line, and not anywhere else in the post) dont spend money, candidates do. Thats probably why youre having to clarify what your point was in the OP in your responses in the thread.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)I don't know how much more I could make it. I write in English.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)That narrative will be difficult for someone who came in 5 through 8.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Are you advocating for these states to be abandoned by campaigns? I would hope not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden