Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe "M4A hurts unions" talking point is nonsense.
For a lot of reasons.
But one important point is that Bernie's plan explicitly states that any savings to employers currently providing union-negotiated healthcare must be turned over to workers, by law, either as higher wages or benefits. Which means that, even if it were the case that current union coverage is better than M4A (which, in the Nevada case, it's not), a union could then decide to either have the employer provide supplemental insurance, or else go with the M4A coverage and realize the cost savings as pay raises.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/workplace-democracy/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jmg257
(11,996 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)For non-union employers, presumably they will have the choice of what to do with cost savings.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/paying-for-m4a
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)Come into her plan, or keep what they have. Choice is back down. She has also stated she will back any and all improvement to ACA.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....is simply false, and if a law was passed dictating that (it won't) it'd be thrown out in a New York minute.
Plus, why should "companies with union negotiated health care plans would be required to enter into new contract negotiations" have to do that? Better yet, turning it around, why should unions who have won those negotiations have to renegotiate? They already HAVE their benefits, earned on the hard work and backs of the rank-and-file unions.
Maybe Senator Sanders should have worked in a union shop to understand how this works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I have no idea why you think it would be "thrown out".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
question everything
(47,544 posts)The Culinary Union has about 60,000 members. Its affiliated health center in Las Vegas provides many services free and has doctors, dentists, optometrists, a pharmacy and urgent care. Mr. Sanders, one union flier warns, would End Culinary Healthcare and Require Medicare For All. The flier explains that Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar and Joe Biden would Protect Culinary Healthcare.
Another flier doesnt mention names: We have fought for 85 years to protect our healthcare. Why would we let politicians take it away? Some candidates might promise higher wages, but they have never sat at our bargaining table or been on a 24/7, 6 years, 4 months, and 10 days strike linelike we have to make an employer pay for healthcare.
This stance has brought blowback from embittered Bernie bros. Its disappointing, a union official said Wednesday, that Senator Sanders supporters have viciously attacked the Culinary Union and working families in Nevada simply because our union has provided facts on what certain healthcare proposals might do to take away the system of care we have built over 8 decades. Randi Weingarten, the head of the American Federation of Teachers, tweeted support: Isnt it better to keep fighting 4 universal health care, than attack those who have concerns?
Medicare for all will also be bad for seniors. Medicare for All would shunt everyone into a new single-payer program, which also means demolishing todays Medicare. That includes doing away with private plans under Medicare Advantage, which enroll about 22 million people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,336 posts)That is all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden