Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 06:56 PM Apr 2019

If Joe Biden was in his 50's instead of his 70's and was accused of the same type of

"invasions of personal space", would his fellow Democrats---who don't know a damn bit more than we do---still be publicly stating that they "believe the women"?

I heard the "Democratic approach" to allegations of sexual abuse described on TV today as simply "believe the women". Is that the reason we are prepared to eat one of our own or is "ageism" to blame?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
If Joe Biden was in his 50's instead of his 70's and was accused of the same type of (Original Post) Atticus Apr 2019 OP
Bluntly speaking of Buttigieg who is 37 were accused of doing to males dsc Apr 2019 #1
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, both as to the effect on the mayor's career and Atticus Apr 2019 #5
Doing to? Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #16
I believe Joe Biden. WheelWalker Apr 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #6
Here it is. WheelWalker Apr 2019 #12
Maybe there is some rationale for a "Space Force"! Every individual will function in a designated cornball 24 Apr 2019 #3
I have had a few conversations that left me thinking this.. GemDigger Apr 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #7
Maybe I should have phrased that differently. GemDigger Apr 2019 #8
I should have rolled my eyes after. GemDigger Apr 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #10
If Biden was in his 50s I'd be much more inclined to support him. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #11
So it's an age issue for you? WheelWalker Apr 2019 #13
At his age, he really should know better. Lancero Apr 2019 #15
I have never been a Joe Biden fan, so it's not just his age but comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #20
I believe the women too Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #14
"---it doesn't even necessarily mean he did anything wrong". I agree, but doesn't it follow Atticus Apr 2019 #17
agreed completely Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #18
Thanks. NT Atticus Apr 2019 #19
 

dsc

(52,167 posts)
1. Bluntly speaking of Buttigieg who is 37 were accused of doing to males
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 06:58 PM
Apr 2019

what Biden is in many cases on tape doing to females, his campaign, frankly his career would be over. Done. Finito.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
5. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, both as to the effect on the mayor's career and
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:26 PM
Apr 2019

as to what Biden is "on tape doing to females". That phrase, like so many that have "somehow" flooded social media, is notable for the fact that it doesn't actually say that there was anything sexual involved (because there wasn't), but it certainly implies that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WheelWalker

(8,956 posts)
2. I believe Joe Biden.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

He is what I call a Wounded Healer. He knows what consoling and comforting can do for others, because he has experienced it from the receiving end. He only wants to connect and help. He will adjust to changing social norms. He will not be swift-boated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to WheelWalker (Reply #2)

 

cornball 24

(1,481 posts)
3. Maybe there is some rationale for a "Space Force"! Every individual will function in a designated
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:11 PM
Apr 2019

space not to be infiltrated by any other being! We will move through life within our designated space and any being who infringes upon our space will be reported to the "Space Force". What have we become! This sickens me. Joe Biden, IMHO, is the victim here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
4. I have had a few conversations that left me thinking this..
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:13 PM
Apr 2019

It's not that we don't believe the women, we know that it is most likely true because we know Joe. What we are not doing is joining the hysteria/rage/lynch mob over space invader Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to GemDigger (Reply #4)

 

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
8. Maybe I should have phrased that differently.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:56 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
9. I should have rolled my eyes after.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:00 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to GemDigger (Reply #9)

 

comradebillyboy

(10,176 posts)
11. If Biden was in his 50s I'd be much more inclined to support him.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:07 PM
Apr 2019

He still needs to learn to keep his hands to himself however.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WheelWalker

(8,956 posts)
13. So it's an age issue for you?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:33 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lancero

(3,015 posts)
15. At his age, he really should know better.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:43 PM
Apr 2019

But then again, the same would apply to someone in their 50's.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

comradebillyboy

(10,176 posts)
20. I have never been a Joe Biden fan, so it's not just his age but
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:01 AM
Apr 2019

in this election cycle I am willing to support anyone who I think can beat Trump. We still have almost a year before the primaries to see who can perform and who can't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
14. I believe the women too
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:40 PM
Apr 2019

But in this case it doesnt even necessarily mean he did anything wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
17. "---it doesn't even necessarily mean he did anything wrong". I agree, but doesn't it follow
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:57 PM
Apr 2019

that until someone can say that he "did something wrong" we should stop talking about "disqualifying" him?

If I enter the room and say "Hi! Howya doin'?", that may genuinely offend you as being "too familiar", but have I "done something wrong"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»If Joe Biden was in his 5...