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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:34 PM Feb 2020

Bernie polls BETTER with Black voters and Hispanic voters than with White voters.

Remember all the talking points about how it's only white people who like Bernie???


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Bernie polls BETTER with Black voters and Hispanic voters than with White voters. (Original Post) DanTex Feb 2020 OP
I tried telling people Bernie is the one candidate who will energize all demographics InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #1
To be fair, he won't energize the "Washington Post columnist" demographic. DanTex Feb 2020 #3
LMFAO!! Cuz of you Dan, I almost blew out another keyboard!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #15
Crickets... bluewater Feb 2020 #2
Regardless of how Bernie does among minorities in 2020, he didn't do well with them in 2016. StevieM Feb 2020 #4
He didn't do as well as he is doing this time, but he did better than most give him credit for Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #6
My point remains the same. StevieM Feb 2020 #10
I'm not sure who you're arguing with Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #16
Yes, your point that Sanders is doing well in 2020 was very true. bluewater Feb 2020 #21
NEWSFLASH: The year is 2020. Sanders doing well with Minority Voters! bluewater Feb 2020 #11
I am not disputing it. StevieM Feb 2020 #19
Thanks for agreeing that Sanders is doing great with Minority Voters! bluewater Feb 2020 #20
Chirp! Chirp! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #18
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #5
Interesting about the Rainbow Coalition reference Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #7
Bernie endorsed Jackson for President. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #9
Ya, forgot about that HBS! Another reason to love Bernie;the guy's ALWAYS been WAY ahead of his time InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #22
Dem party has high percentage in non white groups was my understanding so he has tapped in to lunasun Feb 2020 #8
Pretty sure white voters made up 60% of Democratic voters in '16 & '18. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #14
Sorry yes that is by percentage within each race my error lunasun Feb 2020 #23
That just kills the media and some people. Autumn Feb 2020 #12
48% Hispanics. can Bernie turn Texas blue? jg10003 Feb 2020 #13
No RandySF Feb 2020 #29
Bernie is racist against white people KayF Feb 2020 #17
I wish you were joking... NOTHING is beyond the pale when it comes to bashing Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #24
Don't know about all of the media but Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #25
That's just cause while people also like/know Dream Girl Feb 2020 #26
K&R!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #27
A 2% margin is negligible RandySF Feb 2020 #28
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
1. I tried telling people Bernie is the one candidate who will energize all demographics
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

leading to the defeat of tRumpy The Clown and, because of that, Biden would not come close to taking the nomination away from Bernie, whose time has come... he's the aggressive progressive leader We The People have been waiting for!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. To be fair, he won't energize the "Washington Post columnist" demographic.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:40 PM
Feb 2020

Can't win 'em all...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
15. LMFAO!! Cuz of you Dan, I almost blew out another keyboard!!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:19 PM - Edit history (2)




Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
2. Crickets...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:40 PM
Feb 2020

I am waiting for the results from the racially diverse Nevada Caucus in 8 days.

That should provide the final nail in the coffin of the "Bernie has no minority support" meme.



Warren is polling in 3rd place in that. So I have my fingers crossed for my candidate too.


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Joe Biden
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
4. Regardless of how Bernie does among minorities in 2020, he didn't do well with them in 2016.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe it will be different this time, but that is how it was back then.

So the media should stop with this silly narrative about how HRC was the wrong candidate to run in 2016 in order to turn out the minority vote. The whole reason she beat Sanders is because she destroyed him among minority voters.

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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
6. He didn't do as well as he is doing this time, but he did better than most give him credit for
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

He was getting from 15 to 30% of Black voters in most states when it was pretty much just down to him and Clinton. Much higher with younger black voters when it was broken down by race. With the Hispanic population he did even better.

Quick google didn't help me find a clear answer - these numbers are from my recollection, but this link sheds some light:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/16/bernie-sanders/did-sanders-get-more-primary-votes-young-minoritie/

If I were to vote in a presidential
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
10. My point remains the same.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:30 PM
Feb 2020

Hillary was a strong candidate among minority voters and they delivered the nomination to her. The media should stop pretending that there is any evidence that she was below average when it came to turning out the minority vote.

The fact that Sanders overwhelmingly lost the minority vote, and is now doing respectably, is just more proof that she had a well-earned advantage with these groups which got her such a large portion of their vote share.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
16. I'm not sure who you're arguing with
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

You are the first person on this thread to mention Clinton. And she's not running this time.

If there is a media narrative going on right now about her minority support in 2016 I haven't seen it, but I'm not sure how it is relevant to this thread in any case (aside from the fact that she was Sanders main opponent in 2016).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. Yes, your point that Sanders is doing well in 2020 was very true.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:50 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
11. NEWSFLASH: The year is 2020. Sanders doing well with Minority Voters!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020

So, maybe it's time to stop living in the past?



Bernie is doing very well with minority voters.

It's time to accept that.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
19. I am not disputing it.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:47 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:38 PM - Edit history (1)

I am hijacking the thread to point out the this further proves that the media narrative about the minority vote turnout in the 2016 GE is a lie. The 2016 election was all about a bogus FBI investigation, and James Comey's shenanigans, which were designed to destroy the Democratic candidate.

And I am not going to stop living in the past, because we have Gorsuch and Kavanaugh in the present. We need to demonstrate that the election which gave us them was illegitimate and therefore it is OK to reform the court. We should not accept the assault on liberal democracy that is coming from a right-wing court as the GOP moves us further and further down the road to fascism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
20. Thanks for agreeing that Sanders is doing great with Minority Voters!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

I am highjacking your highjacking to make the thread outline look as it should for Bernie.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
18. Chirp! Chirp!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020

I'll cross my fingers for Elizabeth too blue... she truly is awesome!! 🤞🤞

So glad Elizabeth & Bernie have patched things up... lookin forward to their joining forces!!

Either way the ticket reads, it's a win-win!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,445 posts)
5. Kicked and recommended
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the thread DanTex.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
7. Interesting about the Rainbow Coalition reference
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020

I was thinking about that the other day (maybe the night of Sanders's rally in Durham, NH?). I was barely a teenager in 1988 but I remember seeing stuff about it on the news and in the papers and thinking I wanted to be part of it. Sorta my first political memory (aside from when I was 10 years old and Reagan was using Springsteen's Born in the USA on the campaign trail and even I knew that was fucked up, lol).

Didn't realize his ceiling with white people was 10%! I suppose we have come a long way since then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,345 posts)
9. Bernie endorsed Jackson for President.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
22. Ya, forgot about that HBS! Another reason to love Bernie;the guy's ALWAYS been WAY ahead of his time
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:51 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
8. Dem party has high percentage in non white groups was my understanding so he has tapped in to
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:26 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:20 PM - Edit history (2)

a rising demo for the last ten years . White voters continue to trend more Repug than dem but he has the highest with white vote too

Imo Bloomberg hurts Biden’s numbers more than sanders numbers with every group

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Ace Rothstein

(3,192 posts)
14. Pretty sure white voters made up 60% of Democratic voters in '16 & '18.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
23. Sorry yes that is by percentage within each race my error
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
12. That just kills the media and some people.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020
Thanks for posting.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jg10003

(976 posts)
13. 48% Hispanics. can Bernie turn Texas blue?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(59,343 posts)
29. No
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:14 PM
Feb 2020

These are primary voters, not the general electorate.

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KayF

(1,345 posts)
17. Bernie is racist against white people
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:37 PM
Feb 2020

wait for it

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
24. I wish you were joking... NOTHING is beyond the pale when it comes to bashing Bernie!!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

Or, is that "a WHITER shade of pale"?! Queue the music...

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Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,917 posts)
25. Don't know about all of the media but
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:13 PM
Feb 2020

MSNBC goes into contortions trying to avoid talking about this at virtually any cost. Every once in a while, when they have to talk about what has happened to Biden, the theme of People of Color votes comes up, and they race immediately to all of the support Bloomberg is getting from Black voters despite controversies from his past, and THEN, when they can't avoid talking about the problems Bloomberg has with Blacks, the discussion turns to what Bloomberg can do to repair his standing with People of Color. They simply do NOT want to discuss how Sanders in increasingly winning the support of minority voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
26. That's just cause while people also like/know
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:21 PM
Feb 2020

Klobuchar and Butigiuge so more fragmented. Nice try though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
27. K&R!!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:24 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(59,343 posts)
28. A 2% margin is negligible
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:13 PM
Feb 2020

Given the margin of error for subgroups, he could be doing worse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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