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It is absolutely barbaric (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2020 OP
yeah OK Bernie Skittles Feb 2020 #1
That is a promise no one can keep. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #2
Watch and learn, it can be done even if Buttigieg is too timid to try. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #6
it is ridiculous, but SOP Skittles Feb 2020 #12
One of his top supporters, AOC, is now backing off on that "promise". George II Feb 2020 #3
You're confused but consistent. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #5
No I'm not. A couple of recent pertinent quotes: George II Feb 2020 #8
Alexandria was speaking of the challenge getting Medicare for All through Congress, admittedly Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #10
Even if it got through Congress... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #14
If Bernie is nominated and elected President, the Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #18
How so? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #19
You can argue if you wish that Bernie doesn't win the nomination and Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #20
Plus pay college debts, offer free tuition, housing, etc left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #4
Not to mention puppies. George II Feb 2020 #9
WHAT ? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #13
Lollipops and Balloons for all. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #7
...and unicorns WheelWalker Feb 2020 #11
Okay, tell me how you pay for it. Zolorp Feb 2020 #15
What about free groceries? Lexblues Feb 2020 #16
If we can find money for endless wars CrawlingChaos Feb 2020 #17
 

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
2. That is a promise no one can keep.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:04 PM
Feb 2020

There is no way Bernie, or whoever the "we" is, will be able to eliminate "medical debt." It is irresponsible for him to say this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
6. Watch and learn, it can be done even if Buttigieg is too timid to try. n/t
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
12. it is ridiculous, but SOP
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:29 PM
Feb 2020

yup

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. One of his top supporters, AOC, is now backing off on that "promise".
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
5. You're confused but consistent. n/t
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. No I'm not. A couple of recent pertinent quotes:
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:19 PM
Feb 2020
“A president can’t wave a magic wand and pass any legislation they want,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost this week.


“The worst-case scenario? We compromise deeply and we end up getting a public option. Is that a nightmare? I don’t think so,” she said.

There are more.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/roadblock-bernie-sanders-congress-medicare-for-all_n_5e45ac30c5b6e095c6bcceb0?6yc
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Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
10. Alexandria was speaking of the challenge getting Medicare for All through Congress, admittedly
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:22 PM
Feb 2020

a tough but not impossible challenge, she was not speaking of eliminating all medical debt; a much easier task.

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sheshe2

(83,815 posts)
14. Even if it got through Congress...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:15 PM
Feb 2020

How does it get through a GOP Senate? Mitch today said the 400 House bills sitting on his desk, many passed with a bipartisan vote, will never come to the floor. He refuses to bring one to a vote.

So how exactly is Bernie going to do all this?

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Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
18. If Bernie is nominated and elected President, the
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:51 PM
Feb 2020
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sheshe2

(83,815 posts)
19. How so?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:37 PM
Feb 2020

Your link most certainly did not explain how:

Uncle Joe
18. If Bernie is nominated and elected President, the

Senate will not be the same.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/eliminating-medical-debt/


Your link most certainly did not explain how the Senate would no longer be the same, it was just a copy of his wish list and request for donations.

So again, how will he get this all through a GOP Senate? Also explain how the Senate will not be the same.

I will wait right here. TIA
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Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
20. You can argue if you wish that Bernie doesn't win the nomination and
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 03:29 AM
Feb 2020

I can accept that possibility.

You can argue if you wish that Bernie wins the nomination but loses the general election against Trump as would be the case with any Democratic candidate and I can accept that possibility as well.

However I believe it would be virtually impossible that Bernie; the most progressive of all Democratic candidates could win the nomination and the general election against Trump without Democrats gaining seats in the House and Senate.

Everything would change, it would be a major watershed in American politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. Plus pay college debts, offer free tuition, housing, etc
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. WHAT ?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:57 PM
Feb 2020
Vote for Bernie and get a free puppy?

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
7. Lollipops and Balloons for all. nt
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
15. Okay, tell me how you pay for it.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Lexblues

(180 posts)
16. What about free groceries?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:17 PM
Feb 2020

I'm up for some of that.

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CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
17. If we can find money for endless wars
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:25 PM
Feb 2020

We can certainly eliminate medical debt

GO BERNIE!!!

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