Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumAbout Stop and Frisk
https://www.facebook.com/mikebloomberg/videos/2565989220391659/I don't know how to get the actual video to play. But the link to it does work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
It reminds me of a conversation I had about this. When I first began to learn about the way Black and Brown people have to work to survive, I began to think about the injustice of demanding that people defy the logical impulse to survive by running away. When I said as much to a friend she looked at me like I had lost my mind. Reflecting on it later brought me to tears because I realized that survival meant denying a natural impulse of self protection. Like when people are advised to "let the criminal have the money, car, etc" in the event of a potentially violent crime. It's the very essence of white supremacy to deny the humanity of non white people by imposing deficit of the doubt on Black and Brown people in policies and cultural norms.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,957 posts)Biden wrote the crime bill and BS got the crime bill passed.
Is stop and frisk worse than black men being incarcerated at ridiculous rates?
None of our "B" guys is any good on race. Which one is addressing it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)...that Sanders never got anything significant passed, huh?
I don't know that he got it passed, but he did vote for it. Unfortunately, you can't vote for just the parts of the bill you like. If he'd voted against it, people would now be saying he voted against the Violence Against Women Act, because it was in the same bill. But if you look at contemporaneous statements and videos, you'll find that (unlike Biden) he spoke out against much of the bill and tried to get amendments passed to improve it. So it's not the "black and white" issue it might appear.
re: "Is stop and frisk worse than black men being incarcerated at ridiculous rates?"
Although I'm not a fan of the "what's worse" game when it's all bad, I'd say S&F is at least worse in one respect, that a much greater percentage of the people affected had actually done nothing wrong by any measure, nor was there even a justifiable suspicion that they might have. It wasn't just unfair in its application, it was unfair in its very premise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)p.s. -- with Bloomberg, New York got BOTH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)help people to watch it. Any help will be appreciated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)You aren't going to do any better than one click.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I've also heard members of "Moms Against Guns" express their belief that taking guns out of poor communities does protect -- or in too many cases, would have protected -- their kids.
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"Two years ago, a Bloomberg organization spent more than $4.5 million to help McBath oust Republican incumbent Karen Handel. McBath, whose son was murdered by a gun-wielding assailant, had served as a spokeswoman for the group.
"So her support for Bloomberg, who announced his candidacy late last year, has never been in doubt. Mike gave grieving mothers like me a way to stand up and fight back. Nobody running for president has done more for the gun violence prevention movement than Mike, McBath said in the press release."
https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/with-lucy-mcbath-endorsement-michael-bloomberg-makes-his-georgia-intentions-clear/GJ46PdA9avMGkoVXyFnFtO/
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Personally, I'd support stopping and frisking every ignorant looking white winger walking down the street, especially if they are wearing a MAGA hat or trump shirt. I suspect we'd get a lot of gunners like this off the street:
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)no more contraband or guns than would have turned up without shredding 4th amendment rights.
He turned targeted neighborhoods into police states, ruined young lives, and seriously damaged relationships between communities and police. This in turn made crime fighting more difficult and endangered police. Even members of NYPD turned against this draconian policy.
As to his campaign against Muslims? Not ONE lead was developed out of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,957 posts)drop dead when they didn't want a Mosque built on ground zero.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Again, I never supported Stop & Frisk except for maybe racist gun-toters but Ill trust leaders like McBath, Rusk, Meeks, and a bunch more that I suspect will be showing up on this issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pansypoo53219
(20,982 posts)was ME.
america you are innocent until proven guilty. i aint peeing in a cup.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden