That's a good thing.

Notice how he isn't bashing other Dems?

more than anything. He wants to dictate any script with him in it.

But, bottom line, Warren is right. We shouldn’t even be at this point in our country.

Why are we at this point? This is life after the Citizens United ruling. The money spigots are flowing freely. Ignore it at our own peril.

It might make us feel good, but it doesn't mean he can win the Presidency. He can insult Dotard all day, but those who support him are in a cult and won't be swayed.

So now you have to beat two billionaires.

pay for it without raising middle class taxes. Don’t like being played for a fool.

...we have lost our fucking way.

Horrific to see this shift.

Right fucking matters.

in Bloomberg.

...comments etc... comments that were made in just recent years. Then I would not call them good people.

...to be targeted by police for harassment is extremely sad.

"You can just take the description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops. They are male, minorities, 16-25. That's true in New York, that's true in virtually every city"

"I think we disproportionately stop whites too much, and minorities too little"

^^^ This is seriously what you are defending? This is what they are turning a blind eye too and thats okay with you? Really?

These aren't comments from decades ago. These aren't comments taken out of context. And these weren't just comments, this was actual policy that ruined lives.

Bloomberg. Yet, you’d tell her she’s a “sell out.” Lots of “Moms Against Guns” feel like McBath. Get the gunz out of communities where kids are getting killed walking home from schools.

And, Christ, a former Black Panther is supporting Bloomberg. I listened to Reps Rush and Meeks tonight, they were quite compelling.

Have not heard Washington, DC Mayor Browser’s reason for endorsing Bloomberg today, but I bet it’s equally compelling.

So yes, I would tell her she is selling out.

Trump has "black friends" too. That doesn't make it right. Their covering for Bloomberg does not excuse the atrocious policies and comments. You can throw all the names around you want. None of that will EVER change what Bloomberg is guilty of having done. None of it.

I'm not going to stop bringing them up. You and every person supporting Bloomberg will wear those comments.

And, although I was pretty much committed to Biden until he floundered, it’s not like he didn’t do some things like opposing busing to get minority kids to better funded schools.

At least Bloomberg’s actions saved some lives and some damn good minority Democrats feel Bloomberg is the best candidate to get the Racist-in-Chief out of office. I don’t vote until late March, but I’m opened to listening to such support before casting a ballot.

always the constant anti-Warren drip ... drip ... drip. I saw this before from people against HRC in 2016.

All it's doing is hardening my stance against whomever you support.

I will go out on a limb to say that I believe it may be working that way for others as well.

Sen. Warren speaks the harsh truth regarding Bloomberg!!!

President Warren sounds fantastic to me! The other one, yeah I prefer to not entertain that thought.

But I’d have no issue supporting Sen. Warren over Bloomberg despite her stance on gun control.

There’s no way in hell he would get my primary vote.

You would just pick Warren in the primary if it came down to a choice between her and Bloomberg.

I'd happily pick Warren over Bloomberg in the primary for a number of reasons. Here is a couple just off the top of my head:

Sen. Warren isn't a NYC billionaire with autocratic tendencies.

Sen. Warren doesn't have a history of intensive support for stop-and-frisk and other assault on civil liberties(almost entirely POC).

Sen. Warren doesn't have a history of support for redlining.

Sen. Warren doesn't have a history of opposing medicare, medicaid, social security, or medicaid for all.

Sen. Warren doesn't have a history of rampant sexual harassment allegations.

Sen. Warren doesn't have a history of being perceived of contemptuous of her constituency.

Sen. Warren doesn't have a history of being opposed to taxation on the rich.

Sen. Warren is no Mike Bloomberg.

So yeah, President Warren sounds fantastic to me the more I think about it.

But it's just not realistic. It's just not going to happen. Sooner or later every candidate except for one is going to drop out. For Liz, bless her heart, it's going to be sooner. Possibly even for my man Joe. Have to have a plan B in place. My plan B is Mr. Bloomberg because running against trump in the fall requires a lot of media savvy, a lot of money, and first rate staff to put it all together.
Mike isn't perfect by any means, but checks off all those boxes.

Bloomberg doesn't want to be a part of a circular firing squad.

Its indefensible. To support Bloomberg is support the epitome of systemic racism.

"We are faced, as so often of late, with white social-media commentators being woker on race than the black people they mean to support. Black America is coming around to Bloomberg in poll after poll, apparently unaware of the new wisdom that one unwise policy on race must render a man eternally dismissible even after multiple apologies.

The truly enlightened response to any pious insistences that Bloomberg be sent home over stop-and-frisk is to ask: Even if it means letting Trump have a second term? People who say yes will reveal themselves as fringe extremists, while the harrumphing of those less forthright will illuminate the difference between striking a pose for posterity and working for the better in an imperfect world."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/bloomberg-flunks-wokeness-test-it-doesnt-matter/606634/

Ben Carson is black too.

I'm very flexible and pragmatic but this is where I draw the line. I don't care if Barack Obama himself, probably the Democrat I admire the most, defending this RACIST BULLSHIT.

define damning racism in this election. Even James Clyburn was having a hard time bashing Bloomberg on MSNBC tonight.

I never liked Stop and Frisk for the same reasons you are citing, but I’m swayed by these Black representatives and folks from Moms Against Guns who have their eye on the goal of getting rid of the Racist-in-Chief, protecting kids, and moving us forward.

To post here, you agreed to abide by the TOS which in part says

"but we do expect members to be generally progressive and to support Democrats at election time -"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

While you now say Bloomberg's past is indefensible, it's not so indefensible to prevent you from supporting him at election time.

You know good and well no one can say they won't without getting banned so all you're doing is trolling by saying that. I won't dignify that bullshit with a response of any kind from here on out.

The only other thing I'll add is that real Democrats better make sure we won't nominate a man who is basically Trump minus the mental illness and a veneer of politeness. The super-delegates existed for purposes of keeping such a person from being nominated and I hope they shut Bloomberg down if it comes to that.

The very fact that you, I and others are posting here tells everyone else that we agree to support our nominees on election day. Be it Bloomberg or anyone else.

And people agreeing to the TOS would be rightfully forgiven if they had misgivings about her winning the Democratic nomination.

Now that is an extreme example, but for some Bloomberg might be quite different than the person signed up for.

I hope Bloomberg wins the nomination but I'll gladly vote in the general for the one who does win in case Bloomberg doesn't.

Charles M. Blow
to @CharlesMBlow and @ACLU

5. Bloomberg: "I think we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little. It’s exactly the reverse of what they say. I don’t know where they went to school but they certainly didn’t take a math course. Or a logic course.”

Link to tweet

Maybe a reason Bloomberg is rising is that he is addressing the quite possibly number 1 goal we have and that is to defeat Trump.

it is only because he is on the tv constantly

advertising works

[link:https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/bloomberg-signals-he-would-run-for-president-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html|

“Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York, has indicated to associates in recent weeks that Joe Biden’s recent struggles against Sen. Elizabeth Warren are making him rethink his decision to stay out of the 2020 Democratic primary. ”

“During his three terms as mayor, Bloomberg was a Republican and an independent. He registered as a Democrat again one month before the party’s triumph in the 2018 midterm congressional elections“

Bloomberg is on record as being against Warren and was only going to run if Biden didn’t look viable.

[link:https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/bloomberg-signals-he-would-run-for-president-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html|

“Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York, has indicated to associates in recent weeks that Joe Biden’s recent struggles against Sen. Elizabeth Warren are making him rethink his decision to stay out of the 2020 Democratic primary. ”

“During his three terms as mayor, Bloomberg was a Republican and an independent. He registered as a Democrat again one month before the party’s triumph in the 2018 midterm congressional elections“

One the one hand, she's asking for $$$. On the other hand, she's ripping someone for having the money that she is trying to get. I really like her policies and am rooting for her. But she needs to stop tearing down other democratic contenders and focus on Trump. Her focus is on all the wrong place. There's plenty of Leftist bloggers and influencers that will be more than willing to go after Bloomberg.

Its not sour grapes.

Middle of a race. It still sounds like sour grapes to me.

We see it very differently.

[link:https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/bloomberg-signals-he-would-run-for-president-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html|

“Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York, has indicated to associates in recent weeks that Joe Biden’s recent struggles against Sen. Elizabeth Warren are making him rethink his decision to stay out of the 2020 Democratic primary. ”

“During his three terms as mayor, Bloomberg was a Republican and an independent. He registered as a Democrat again one month before the party’s triumph in the 2018 midterm congressional elections“

"Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters sees little difference in Bloomberg using his fortune and others tapping donors

Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters defended Mike Bloomberg’s right to self-finance his presidential campaign Thursday on CNBC, suggesting the billionaire’s own money was not much different from money raised by other candidates.

“We live in a democracy, unless it’s undermined by this president who doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Waters said on “The Exchange.” “The democracy, and the way it gives everybody an opportunity, is what we basically believe in."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/maxine-waters-weighs-in-on-mike-bloomberg-2020-campaign.html

"“And whether you have your own money or whether you’re collecting it from thousands or millions of people in small amounts, that’s the way the democracy works,” she said."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/maxine-waters-weighs-in-on-mike-bloomberg-2020-campaign.html

He is BUYING endorsements, that is not what Warren does.

And Maxine Waters, a respected life long Democrat, says she sees little difference between someone who raises money at the grass roots level and one who uses their own money to fund their campaign.

is buying.

be the same.

soon, we have as good a chance, possibly better, to beat Trump as we do with a candidate we must sacrifice our principles to and oh dear, our country. If he gets in, endless political manipulation and money will poison our system. Everyone will owe him. We will end up being bought and sold over and over.

I say that with full confidence.

There is no "might" about it. It already happened. Now the world is different and it is the world we have to live in.

This election will not be won by good policy ideas no matter how much we would like it to be.

We have to get Filthy Donnie out. If we don't, the rule of law is gone.

so far he is the only one play knick knack pattywack with the Donald, who is out raising money at 1/2 million dollar dinners.

NH was a wake-up call ... and Warren peeps have been responding beautifully!

I'll be kicking in some more myself because I want those ad buys back in SC as well!