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brooklynite

(94,738 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:31 PM Feb 2020

Deep cracks emerge in Biden's firewall

Politico

CHARLESTON, S.C. — His message is uninspiring. His ground game is flawed. After Iowa and New Hampshire, they’re no longer convinced he can beat Donald Trump.

Interviews with two dozen South Carolina lawmakers, consultants and voters here suggests there are deep cracks in Joe Biden’s firewall state, where his campaign expects to turn his misfortunes around with a robust victory that highlights his broad-based support — particularly among African Americans.

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During a get-out-the-vote effort Wednesday in a North Charleston neighborhood just blocks away from Biden’s offices, members of the media rivaled the number of volunteers present. Some prominent black state leaders expected to be firmly in Biden’s camp have migrated to other campaigns, namely those of Tom Steyer and Bernie Sanders.

Dahli Myers, vice chair of the Richland County Council and a former Biden supporter, said she switched allegiances to Sanders after warning several Biden staffers that their grassroots approach was outdated. His get-out-the-vote strategy, she said, was too tailored to older voters and his message of electability too broad to be convincing.

"Before any of these elections took place — the Iowa caucus, or [the] New Hampshire primary, my sense was, there was a structural impediment to people going out and being 'rah rah' and voting for Joe Biden," Myers said. "If the whole of your argument for my vote is, 'I'm electable', and there is nothing that you presented as, you know, the case study for why we should elect you, though you are electable, what is the point? Give me a reason to elect you. And I don't think that that campaign's doing a good job of that."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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George II

(67,782 posts)
1. How many times are we going to see this opinion piece from Politico?
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,409 posts)
2. I guess some may believe this wiill motivate Biden supporters to jump ship, which is why the
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:47 PM
Feb 2020

repeated posts

The irony of this BS is that it has the potential to further split the votes between Biden, Amy, and Pete, and improve the odds for Sanders to get the nomination, and if that happens in opinion we will get another four years of trump



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
9. Maybe that is what they are trying to accomplish. nt
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:54 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to still_one (Reply #2)

 

emulatorloo

(44,186 posts)
5. That's a great op-Ed about Biden's character and how it shines through when he talks to people
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:00 AM
Feb 2020

Thanks for posting

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
8. It's fair
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:27 AM
Feb 2020

As is the Time article pre-Iowa. It shows the good and bad.

The person is great. The candidate, not so much.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emulatorloo

(44,186 posts)
4. "If the whole of your argument for my vote is, 'I'm electable'. False premise
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

Typical Politico article. Start with a false premise and go from there.



Biden policy pages:

https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
6. I guess Bloomberg thinks Biden is done
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020

[link:https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/bloomberg-signals-he-would-run-for-president-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html|

“Bloomberg is in if Biden is out,” said another New York billionaire with ties to Bloomberg.

Bloomberg fears Warren. He was for Biden. Apparently he feels Biden no longer has a shot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
7. Biden needs to recite this page until voters ears bleed
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:25 AM
Feb 2020

[link:https://joebiden.com/infrastructure/|

It’s his best plan and something he is passionate about.

And I like how the plan to pay for it is written. Sounds good and gives wiggle room.

“Every cent of Joe Biden’s $1.3 trillion investment in our nation’s infrastructure will be paid for by making sure the super-wealthy and corporations pay their fair share. Specifically, this investment will be offset by revenue raised through reversing the excesses of the Trump tax cuts for corporations; reducing incentives for tax havens, evasion, and outsourcing; ensuring corporations pay their fair share; closing other loopholes in our tax code that reward wealth, not work; and ending subsidies for fossil fuels.”

I really like Joe, but he is not a good candidate. And his team is failing him. That team is an indicator of how he would govern.

The above is what he should be running on. Not fear that other candidates can’t win. Not by stating what can’t be done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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