Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Minces No Words In Takedown Of Rival Michael Bloomberg
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-michael-bloomberg-attack-nevada_n_5e48fcefc5b64433c6178bd2Regardless of how much money a multi-billionaire candidate is willing to spend on this election, we will not create the energy and excitement we need to defeat Donald Trump if that candidate pursued, advocated for and enacted racist policies like stop and frisk which caused communities of color in his city to live in fear, Sanders said, referring to Bloombergs complicated legacy as New York Citys former mayor.
I think Bernie is right. I see a lot of posters at DU saying in so many words that they don't like some of Bloomberg's record but since he is the only one who can beat Trump they are supporting him. Well, I respect their sincerity but I think they are wrong. Quite the contrary, Bloomberg cannot defeat Trump IMO and that's the main reason why I don't support him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Win - Win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Especially after Bloomberg becomes the presumptive nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Of course they will help but they wont carry the same weight if he withdraws his candidacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,061 posts)"Take down" my foot. The BS camp is in overdrive with BS rhetoric again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)But we need more than just attacking Trump. We need a candidate who can win and Bloomberg is not that candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Autumn
(45,120 posts)with their actions and the truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Its life or death for the Democratic party and Democratic principles. If Trump wins again we are finished. We have to use every possible advantage we have to win this thing. For a fellow Democrat to attack someone who is willing to spend hundreds of millions to stop Trump is frankly asinine.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)nasty Republican. Like any other candidate in a primary Bloomberg with have to show me what he's got and what he is. So far he hasn't. Even Biden and Warren, to use your word, are "attacking" him. As they and anyone else who cares about our democracy should.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)This one is for all the marbles.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)It's a damn SHITSHOW out there. We have crossed lines in the sand that I am still trying to wrap my head around. This election is it. Democracy as we know it will cease. Defeat Donald Trump. That should be our only directive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Maybe someday he'll come around and put 1/10th of his effort in going after Tramp and the republicans.
He's not a viable option imo. Pretty much ANY Democratic Party candidate BUT him for 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Bloomberg is free to attack Trump for his policies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,326 posts)Too Many times. Same ole BernieBullshit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)duplicate message.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Sanders support plateaus.
Bloomberg's support continues to grow.
Somebody is doing something right and somebody is doing something wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)in Nevada. Of course Mike is disrespecting us here in Nevada by not participating here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)He's never going to break 30%.
He has much lower support than 2016.
He's done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)No other candidate including Mike is over 30% either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)He's had a five year head start on the field and yet has LOST support!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,976 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,976 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)That said, Im sure that Mike disrespects Sanders supporters in some other way. 😱
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)Biden is fading fast.
Bloomberg is moving up fast.
And Bloomberg has yet to be in any primary or caucus!
Super Tuesday is coming.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,535 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,886 posts)Independents turn out for a Bush/Cheney Republican? What kind of message does this send to long time liberal and progressive voters? If all we have is Trump is worse we will lose.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)It's straight Democratic. There's no reason, from a POLICY standpoint for 2020, to be turned off as a Democratic voter. The likely reason NOT to vote for him is deciding to give more weight to his past record and statements, rather than his present or future plans and rhetoric, and that's fair.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,886 posts)doesn't erase that. How about Ivanka or Jared in 2028 if they become Democrats?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)He was mostly a middle of the road guy. In some respects he was more progressive than Dems like Joe Manchin. In others he was a Rudy Giuliani-mold law-n-order Republican. Fiscal conservative. A very mixed bag politically, and opportunistic or flexible as it suited him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ZZenith
(4,128 posts)Am I taking crazy pills here?
Stop and Frisk is middle of the road?
Oy Vey.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)a fairly liberal GOPer back then. He's fucking bonkers now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ZZenith
(4,128 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)could take down Donnie Dumbass.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Thanks for the thread totodeinhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,438 posts)"Attacks a Democratic candidate"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,016 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I'm the only one who can beat Trump
I'm the only one who can beat Trump
I'm the only one who can beat Trump
I'm the only one who can beat Trump
I'm the only one who can beat Trump
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,016 posts)Thousands of them were here. Many went to JPR. Many stayed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,738 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,861 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,338 posts)time and time again.
It's little wonder BS is running so scared.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,886 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,338 posts)as well as his lack thereof.
BS is going to have to answer for voting on the Republican side time and time again against sane gun laws.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,886 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,338 posts)Sane gun laws are part of the Democratic Party platform.
Why would anyone here push the phony "gun control" narrative?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,886 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,338 posts)Why would anyone reject a candidate who voted with Republicans against the Brady Bill and for the PLCAA and vote instead for a citizen-activist leading the fight for sane gun laws?
Ask Fred Guttenberg and the Sandy Hook families.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)If ones goal was to lose the election!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,886 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Its a win-win setup for the 1%.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He was for sensible gun laws when Bernie was still voting against them. In ten years, 350,000-390,000 people died from handguns that the Brady Bill would have helped corrall, Sanders voted against the Brady Bill five times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)Why has this not been done in the debates... Why is Sanders not being made to answer for how his plans actually work? He needs to be properly vetted on the debate stage and see if he can stand the heat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,338 posts)up and down ticket in 2020.
The candidates' records on guns will come up in the next debate, as will stop and frisk AND the 1994 Crime Bill.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)against gun control legistlation? Several hundred thousand people died from handgun violence during that time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
drray23
(7,637 posts)He will either be upset at the reporter for asking, pivot into his stump speech or invoke the magic revolution that will suddenly make all republicans in congress vote for his proposals.
We heard that before.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)600,000-1 million people died from gun violence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)streets of NYC and other big cities. How does a big city Mayor get guns off the street once those guns have flooded into the city?
Will Bernie apologize for the close to 1 million dead victims of gun violence during the ~30 years that he opposed sensible gun control laws?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,861 posts)The reason Bloomberg is climbing in the polls is that all he does is attack Trump instead of the other candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)Mike, it's time to start writing checks.... Bernie needs to be exposed. He isn't a Democrat
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,016 posts)Stop and frisk was immoral and ineffective. But on a separate note, incarcerations in NYC went down 39% under Bloomberg.
Bernie, on the other hand, helped pass the crime bill that led to the unwarranted incarcerations of thousands of black men.
I don't want to be stopped and frisked. But I want to be wrongfully incarcerated even less.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)That's why I'm with Bloomberg. He knows who the correct target to go after is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided