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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:58 PM Feb 2020

OK, You can stop this now!

Come on people. Get a clue. All this snarky trash talk, backbiting and hostility has to stop. You are handing the orange headed buffoon in the White House campaign fodder that he doesn't need. The reality is, we do not need four more years of Donald Trump! But unless the character assassination and the fighting going on among Democrats right now doesn't stop, that's exactly what we are going to get and we will only have ourselves to blame for it.

The Democratic party has the best opportunity to recapture the White House and the Senate, on top of more gains in the House, all because the "blue wave" that kicked off almost immediately after orange hair got elected has snowballed with each incompetent, inept, stupid thing this buffoon has done. Support among his own party has dropped, the head to head polling so far is good news for Democrats all the way around and that's without any major investment in attack advertising by the DNC (though Bloomberg isn't restraining himself in that department and good for him!). Every stupid tweet, every lie, every inept move, costs him support. Look at what happened as the facts were laid out and people made up their minds when everything was on the table during the impeachment, and we haven't even heard the whole story yet. Post impeachment, more stuff is coming out, including his blatant attempts to interfere in the criminal cases against his associates who broke the law. Yeah, there are a lot of deplorables out there who are just like him and who have no values or morals to speak of who continue to support him with grunts and pumped fists, but there are a lot of Americans who didn't go to the ballot box in 2016 who are regretting their decision.

The Democrats will offer the only viable alternative. I believe every Democrat who has tossed their hat into the ring understands what is at stake, and understands that they will have to lay out a campaign that Americans will embrace in large enough numbers not only to win the election but to teach the GOP a lesson about this constitutional democratic republic, the rule of law and what happens when you place partisan interests above patriotism. Every Democrat running gets that. And every Democrat running, whether you're on board with the fine tuned details of their health care plan or tax reform plan, understands what they will have to do on the national stage to beat Donald Trump. We will pick one of them, not because we think they have the best plan for selling more corn to China, but because we think they will set this country back on the track toward understanding what it means to live under the RULE OF LAW and have respect for THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

The two most meaningful places I have ever visited are Independence Hall in Philadelphia and the National Archives in Washington, DC. The first time I stood in that little corridor in Independence Hall between the courtroom and the legislative chamber where both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were written, I couldn't hold back the tears. Same thing at the Archives, though you only get a few seconds to gaze at those faded, blurry pages. In November of 2017, I had the privilege of escorting two high school foreign exchange students, one from Switzerland, one from China, on a tour of both of those places. The Chinese student cried. When we were talking about it at lunch, he said he saw a lot of Americans just take their freedom for granted because they have absolutely no idea what it is like to live without it.

It's time for Democrats and Independents who realize what's at stake to start acting like it. You have the freedom to say what you want, and believe what you want, but you also have the freedom to do something that will help wipe Donald Trump's footprints off the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and retrieve it from the trash can where he threw it. That requires a step up and "going high" as President Obama would say, certainly during our own primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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OK, You can stop this now! (Original Post) lees1975 Feb 2020 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2020 #1
Kicking for unity democrank Feb 2020 #2
You're addressing that to the candidates, right? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #3
Supporters can behave, too lees1975 Feb 2020 #10
You're addressing that to DU, right? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #12
:-) lees1975 Feb 2020 #13
I read this as an admonishment to candidates and supporters alike. ramen Feb 2020 #26
100% Agree! leftieNanner Feb 2020 #4
I'm certain this is democracy in action. I'm also certain that document has failed Kurt V. Feb 2020 #5
✔️ blm Feb 2020 #6
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Feb 2020 #7
Thank you for an excellent post! pazzyanne Feb 2020 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #9
Actually lees1975 Feb 2020 #14
Nice crystal ball you've got there. paleotn Feb 2020 #17
AMEN! Dem2theMax Feb 2020 #11
Well said, thank you. CanonRay Feb 2020 #15
Highly recommended!! +10250 paleotn Feb 2020 #16
passion during primaries is not a bad thing AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #18
Well said. BlueWI Feb 2020 #19
" You are handing the orange headed buffoon in the White House campaign fodder that he doesn't need" brooklynite Feb 2020 #20
Thank you! Lulu KC Feb 2020 #21
Amen. tosh Feb 2020 #22
If you don't have anything nice to say... PETRUS Feb 2020 #23
I agree! I feel some ppl arent taking this election seriously... samnsara Feb 2020 #24
EXCELLENT post! dchill Feb 2020 #25
I'm with you-- why provide Trump with cannon fodder for the general election? dawg day Feb 2020 #27
Unity after the primary. Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #28
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
3. You're addressing that to the candidates, right?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:02 PM
Feb 2020

Good.

I thought so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
10. Supporters can behave, too
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:21 PM
Feb 2020

There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone's view. You have free speech, you can say what you want, but trying to build up your preference by knocking the others is not going to help because right now it's likely someone you're knocking will be the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
12. You're addressing that to DU, right?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:22 PM
Feb 2020

Good.

I thought so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ramen

(790 posts)
26. I read this as an admonishment to candidates and supporters alike.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:21 PM
Feb 2020

All of us can take this message to the bank. Smile on your brother etc. Let's do this together, because we cannot do it apart.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

leftieNanner

(15,101 posts)
4. 100% Agree!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:03 PM
Feb 2020

I have been avoiding all posts that refer to polls, and any that look like they are going to take any of our candidates out.

I am officially undecided, because my preferences have changed as I have gotten to know our team. And it is a TEAM!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
5. I'm certain this is democracy in action. I'm also certain that document has failed
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:05 PM
Feb 2020

to uphold it. this goes *beyond freedom and dignity*

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Faux pas

(14,681 posts)
7. Kickin' with gusto!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020

Playing in to putin's/the devil's hands

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
8. Thank you for an excellent post!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:14 PM
Feb 2020

You bring up some great points that we all need to think about. This is not a normal election in a normal time. We must all unite in the effort to "throw the bum in the White House out".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to lees1975 (Original post)

 

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
14. Actually
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020

This is a slam dunk. Tulsi Gabbard could beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
17. Nice crystal ball you've got there.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

Does it pick up HBO?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
15. Well said, thank you.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
16. Highly recommended!! +10250
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
18. passion during primaries is not a bad thing
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:58 PM
Feb 2020

I wish before each and every debate, the first question to all candidates would be: Do you pledge your full support to whoever wins the primary? Viewers need to see that. Unity pledge.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
20. " You are handing the orange headed buffoon in the White House campaign fodder that he doesn't need"
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:01 PM
Feb 2020

As with what happens in ( appropriately) Vegas, what happens at DU stays at DU.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
21. Thank you!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:13 PM
Feb 2020

If I had another heart left, I'd give it to you.
It is getting so, so, SO ugly. Here. Twitter. Headlines that are feeding it all. I only hope we're going through a phase and it will end. Otherwise, we are truly doomed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
23. If you don't have anything nice to say...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

...come sit next to me.

(kidding)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
24. I agree! I feel some ppl arent taking this election seriously...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020

...this may be their first AND LAST time to vote ever again....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
27. I'm with you-- why provide Trump with cannon fodder for the general election?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:29 PM
Feb 2020

He's going to use every single nasty against whoever ends up the candidate. Let's not do Brad Parscale's dirty work for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Qutzupalotl

(14,312 posts)
28. Unity after the primary.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020

Vetting before the primary.

We aren’t doing anyone’s dirty work for them. Trump already has all the dirt on our candidates he needs. We need to prepare for what’s coming.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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