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Related: About this forumMike Bloomberg in 2010 called Obamacare legislation 'a disgrace'
Mike Bloomberg in 2010 called Obamacare legislation 'a disgrace' and 'another program that's going to cost a lot of money'By Andrew Kaczynski and Em Steck, CNN
Speaking at Dartmouth College in July of that year, Bloomberg added that law was just "another program that's going to cost a lot more money."
It is just one of several comments from Bloomberg identified by CNN's KFile criticizing the landmark Affordable Care Act in the years following its passage, including saying the bill was "really dysfunctional" and did nothing to solve rising health care costs.
Now, a decade later, as he hopes to become the Democratic presidential nominee, Bloomberg has fully embraced the Affordable Care Act, even proposing an additional "Medicare-like public option" that builds on the law.
At the time Bloomberg made his remarks, the law was seen as a political liability for Democrats, and Republicans were campaigning heavily against the bill on their way to victories in the 2010 midterm elections. Bloomberg, who was initially elected as a Republican, was governing as an independent at the time of his remarks. (He re-registered as a Democrat in 2018.)
"We passed a health care bill that does absolutely nothing to fix the big health care problems in this country. It is just a disgrace," said Bloomberg at the Dartmouth Presidential Lecture in 2010. "The President, in all fairness, started out by pointing out what the big problems were, but then turned it over to Congress, which didn't pay any attention to any of those big problems and just created another program that's going to cost a lot of money."
Much more at the link:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/16/politics/kfile-bloomberg-called-obamacare-a-disgrace/index.html
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abqtommy
(14,118 posts)bunch.
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andym
(5,443 posts)I read the linked article beyond your cherry-picked quote. It stated some of his reasoning
""It's really sad because they say they've insured or provided coverage for another 45 million people," Bloomberg added in the speech. "Except there's no doctors for 45 million more people and unless they fix immigration and let people who come here for medical education stay here, those people are just going to do the same thing. They're going to have to go to the emergency rooms where they've been except that now it's going to cost a lot more money."
then,
"The campaign noted Bloomberg's support of efforts to reform health care in early 2009 and a press release in support of the House version of the Affordable Care Act the day before it was passed. The campaign also pointed to an op-ed Bloomberg wrote in 2009 where he appears to be supportive of the House bill that was being crafted around that time"
So he supported the House version, you know the one with the public option! So, he did not like the final version because of the compromises-- a lot of us feel the same way.
And I dont support Bloomberg at all- I like Warren, who has quite a different policiy take-- but this kind of political assassination by editing of history is ugly.
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madeup64
(257 posts)Would probably rather see anyone else running win the nomination except Bloomberg (ok Tulsi too) but we are supposed to care about facts and truth. Plenty of things to criticize Bloomberg for, no need to twist the truth.
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squirecam
(2,706 posts)Drive by smears without context.
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It really bothers me when there are attempts to flat out manipulate folks. As you say there are plenty of actual things to criticize Bloomberg about. I am always glad to see people seeking out the truth.
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DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Me or the authors of the CNN article?
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andym
(5,443 posts)outside of its attention-grabbing focus.
The OP doesn't bother with the exculpatory material, except to say there is "much more" at the link.
I figured it was even worse than what was posted--imagine my surprise to find Bloomberg had supported the House version of the ACA.
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DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I can add more in other posts
Like this from 2011
And this from 2014
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andym
(5,443 posts)direct quotation as much as you like! AND everyone should try to communicate as accurately and fairly as possible. My recommendation is to update your OP to include the whole picture.
That Bloomberg did not like the final version of the ACA is clear: it's the context that he DID actually like the idea of the ACA in some form, and in fact he did support the House version which was more liberal as well as better constructed financially really changes how I and many others here would characterize his criticism.
As for Bloomberg himself, I don't like his warmed-over policies, nor his supporting Republicans, and the tinge of racism/sexism that surrounds him (though how much of problem this is awaits further elucidation), so I would have been quite sympathetic to the article's POV had it been justified. Now I give him more credit thanks to your OP--though I am FAR from supporting him. In fact Amy, your preferred candidate is my number 2, for her pragmatic approach.
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evertonfc
(1,713 posts)we wanna beat Trump. Amy is done. Move on to a Democratic socialist if you like but enough with the Bloomberg slander.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)It is a very long report. Read it all at the link.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The copyright policy is no excuse.
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DesertRat
(27,995 posts)But feel free to pick through and snip the parts that you like and post them.
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Doreen
(11,686 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)Given all of Bloomberg's views expressed for years, compared to what he now is saying after he decided to seek the Democratic nomination, where will he come down on issues when it is time to "run to the center" if he does secure the nomination? We don't get a do over if he changes course.
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gollygee
(22,336 posts)The original plan was much better. He's right about it - what ended up passing does nothing to fix the big health problems in this country.
"The President, in all fairness, started out by pointing out what the big problems were, but then turned it over to Congress, which didn't pay any attention to any of those big problems and just created another program that's going to cost a lot of money."
That quote is right on the money. There are good parts to it but it is not at all what it should be.
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Skya Rhen
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DesertRat
(27,995 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden