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This is no way to get to 51 (in the Senate). (Original Post) Scurrilous Feb 2020 OP
51? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #1
Senators. A majority in the US Senate. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #2
TY TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #5
YW NurseJackie Feb 2020 #8
Sanders just might do to the Democratic Party what Trump did to the Republicans Zolorp Feb 2020 #3
Jane also said this on General Election Day... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #4
This has nothing whatsoever to do with the Senate. That's scurrilous, Scurrilous. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #6
OK then. Who is Jane trashing and what is he running for? Scurrilous Feb 2020 #7
True. Those people attacking Bernie's wife should know better than to try to divide the party DanTex Feb 2020 #9
What's Jane saying about Hickenlooper then? Cha Feb 2020 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #12
Nobody is "attacking Bernie's wife". NurseJackie Feb 2020 #13
Yeah well you can bet the GOP will attack her and may very well investigate it all the way to the Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #18
Agreed. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #19
That is right...we have to nominate someone other than Sanders... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #20
The GOP will bury Jane. I wouldn't be surprised if she is not investigated or even indicted by Barr. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #15
Bernie's not the only one they will go after with false claims and innuendo about family members. DanTex Feb 2020 #16
They have Barr and as far as I know...no other candidate was involved in the bankruptcy of a college Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #17
I'm sick of him claiming credit for IDEAS he did not come up with in a vacuum. SO DONE. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #10
He doesn't claim credit. Quite the opposite. DanTex Feb 2020 #14
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. Senators. A majority in the US Senate.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:00 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
5. TY
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020

Got it now. Was thinking Area 51

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Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. YW
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

Well, I had to think about it for a moment... it did lack obvious context. Your guess seemed logical!

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Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
3. Sanders just might do to the Democratic Party what Trump did to the Republicans
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:02 AM
Feb 2020

Bend the knee my only white ass.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Jane also said this on General Election Day...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:09 AM
Feb 2020

Jane also said this on General Election Day (see below). She wasn't encouraging her followers to vote for the Democrat. It's clear that she was giving her followers "permission" to vote for someone other than the Democrat. In this case, she was specifically expressing her APPROVAL that someone had voted for Jill Stein.

It's clear to me that Jane is no fan of (nor friend to) Democrats or the Democratic party. What good purpose does it serve for her to go around saying things like this? Why denigrate Democratic candidates. Why create resentment and distrust? It only serves divide and weaken our party. It only serves to drive-away folks that would otherwise vote for Democrats and support the party... so why do it? Why say such things? Why the hostility and bitterness?

Is she going rogue? Or does she need her own advisor to help her craft her message and stay on-message? (And in this case, the crafted message would ideally be one that benefits Democrats and the Democratic party.)

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hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
6. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the Senate. That's scurrilous, Scurrilous.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:57 AM
Feb 2020
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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
7. OK then. Who is Jane trashing and what is he running for?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:14 AM
Feb 2020
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. True. Those people attacking Bernie's wife should know better than to try to divide the party
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020

like that.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,272 posts)
11. What's Jane saying about Hickenlooper then?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:04 AM
Feb 2020
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Nobody is "attacking Bernie's wife".
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:03 AM
Feb 2020
Those people attacking Bernie's wife should know better than to try to divide the party
Should know better than... what? Huh? What's that again?

Oh, please!

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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
18. Yeah well you can bet the GOP will attack her and may very well investigate it all the way to the
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020

General ...implying that Sanders did something improper...we saw this act before...but the emails?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Agreed.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:02 PM
Feb 2020

She's made herself an easy target with having made so many poor and questionable decisions, and based on the things she's said and tweeted. She'll have only herself to blame.

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Demsrule86

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20. That is right...we have to nominate someone other than Sanders...
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
15. The GOP will bury Jane. I wouldn't be surprised if she is not investigated or even indicted by Barr.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:14 AM
Feb 2020

Also, the large money paid to the step-daughter will be brought out. They will hint that Sander used his influence to help Jane with the mortgage...now there is no evidence of that and Snopes said it was false...but the innuendo alone will hurt Sanders. He may also be placed under investigation as Hillary was. There is plenty of oppo out there and it has nothing to do with our side...the GOP will use it. I would rather it come out now than be a surprise in the general.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/jane-omeara-sanders-burlington-college.html

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DanTex

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16. Bernie's not the only one they will go after with false claims and innuendo about family members.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:20 AM
Feb 2020

That's pretty much going to be a constant no matter who we nominate. It's also not a surprise, as you showed there is a NYT article and other press about it, along with snopes debunking it. Everyone knows about it, and everyone knows it's bullshit. I know that won't stop the GOP, but they can manufacture lies about anyone, and they will.

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Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
17. They have Barr and as far as I know...no other candidate was involved in the bankruptcy of a college
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:47 PM
Feb 2020

which left students with nowhere to go...and Jane got a severance also and then there is the payment to her daughter's Woodworking school of $500,000 in tuition money. This is problematic and would be investigated in the Senate and by Barr IMHO.

Most would agree she should not have taken that mortgage based on future donations... I don't have an opinion on this...feel sorry for the kids of course. But Trump will use it as a cudgel. I will add that the idea that people don't go to jail for falsifying mortgages (not saying Jane did this but that is what she will be accused of) is false...a close family member of mine went to club Fed for two years for doing just that.

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UniteFightBack

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10. I'm sick of him claiming credit for IDEAS he did not come up with in a vacuum. SO DONE. nt
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
14. He doesn't claim credit. Quite the opposite.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020

He readily points out that all the policies he's running on have been widely and successfully implemented all over the world.

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