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dsc

(52,162 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:29 PM Feb 2020

We need to stop our obsession with Apps

Iowa ran a caucus for 40 plus years, without incident. The math involved isn't a snap but it isn't super complicated either. Here is what they should have done. You get your card when you come in and then go to your area. Each area has one of those things they use at the deli counter with numbers on pieces of paper. A caucus official takes the pieces of paper and gives them to the voters in each area and the number shown on the next one tells them how many people there are. The official checks this count by hand counting the people, if they match that number is written down. If they don't, two more officials come over and count the people. If the three head counts agree or the two new ones do, then that number if written down. If not, then one representative of each competing campaign plus one of the campaign in question all count, those numbers one hopes will agree. If none of those do, the voters in that section give the cards to the official and those are counted. The number is written down.

First count is done, non viable groups are sent to look for groups to join.

New count is done just like old one. Numbers are written down.

Use Hamilton method to apportion delegates.

Each campaign signs off on math.

Paper is scanned and emailed to headquarters.

Results are tabulated and released.

This isn't that hard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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We need to stop our obsession with Apps (Original Post) dsc Feb 2020 OP
K&R defacto7 Feb 2020 #1
We need to stop having caucuses. Problem solved. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #2
... RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #3
Since we're only about 25 years into the age of the internet Submariner Feb 2020 #4
The sheets are public record and I don't see how they could be changed in the email dsc Feb 2020 #5
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
2. We need to stop having caucuses. Problem solved.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
4. Since we're only about 25 years into the age of the internet
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:15 PM
Feb 2020

we should stick with paper ballots for the next 20 years or so, until the internet is much more secure than it is now.

At the moment we're using the internet technology to pay our bills, apply for loans and/or mortgages, etc., all subject to hacking from crooks within the U.S., and from outside the country. The worst example of this hacking to me is the risk of losing everything you worked for from a ransoms crook.

I feel we should not be voting on the internet with our PC's and smartphones until the tracking technology is eventually developed, where we can positively identify the source, address, and personal ID of the hacker. When the ransomware hacker, or any hacker, knows I have pin-pointed his location and that I'm coming over to beat the living crap out of him, then he is not going to hack the vote knowing he will be going to prison.

Overseas hackers should be apprehended by an outfit like Interpol. These hackers need a beat down they won't forget, but right now they even hold cities and towns hostage for thousands or millions, and they win every time because we can't seem t find them. We need to kill this scum off before using the internet to vote.
















If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dsc

(52,162 posts)
5. The sheets are public record and I don't see how they could be changed in the email
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:18 PM
Feb 2020

without the emailer knowing. He or she would have the original sheet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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