Democratic Primaries
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On the latest cover of The Atlantic, Mayor Michael Bloomberg looms large over (a model of) New York City; inside, he gets to sound off for a national audience about many of the things locals hear him say on a weekly basis.
Among the issues he expounds upon and gripes about in the full interview: the soda ban, Wall Street, and the future of journalism but not stop and frisk, Muslim surveillance, or anything too sticky.
Where Bloomberg does go a little wild is in his assessment of Barack Obamas presidency, declaring that the administrations greatest accomplishment was just getting elected. What about the killing of Osama bin Laden, Deputy Mayor Howard Wolfson interjects. Nah, says Bloomberg.
Heres his full, somewhat convoluted answer, from the transcript:
Thats like giving Harry Truman credit for dropping the bomb: any president wouldve pushed that button, any president wouldve dropped the bomb. Harry Truman stood up to Douglas MacArthur. An awful lot of people wouldnt have done that. Harry Truman integrated the Army.
A lot of people wouldnt have done that. Harry Truman had the Marshall Plan if in World War I wed done that, we wouldnt have had a World War II. But dropping the bomb, no, and I dont think, in this case, Osama bin Laden and incidentally, if you believe any of these stories or books, who knows what he did or didnt do or was forced into. I mean, I dont know. But I think thats not I dont know that thats fair.
I dont know that you can look I mean, Hillary Clintons very competent but theres no Obama Doctrine that I know of. I dont know that anybody has enunciated a worldview the way that Henry Kissinger did in his day, or George Shultz, or even [James] Baker. I have nothing but respect for Hillary, but I think the world today is run out of the White House rather than Foggy Bottom and places like that.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2012/10/bloomberg-unimpressed-with-obama-killing-osama.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Tear down institutions and icons and the accomplishments of others and replace them with themselves and their own actions. They want all the spotlight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Showing respect for the office and for the first black president would be way more on point, especially on the 9/11 issue for the former mayor of NYC!
I have to say that as a Midwestern who doesn't always follow NYC politics closely, it has been an education to learn more about Bloomberg. Your posts have helped me seek to be more educated about the extent of stop and frisk and its deeply racist effects.
Not that I was inclined to support him before, but I can see now that I need to be activity opposed to a Bloomberg nomination, to say the least. Thanks for your insights!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Love-All
(63 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Today my partner said Did you know Obamas endorsing Bloomberg?
No. And hes not, I said.
But he has an ad with Obama, so I thought...
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It is the first claim I find stunning. How did Obama stoke racial division in America?
By succeeding at the highest level of achievement, being perhaps the most unifying president in our lifetimes, accomplishing so much for the American people? Maybe Bloomberg missed Obamas incredible speech on race. Maybe missed everything and imagined or assumed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
andym
(5,443 posts)territorial integrity to order to accomplish the elimination of bin Laden. Not every President would have necessarily done so, and it did carry risks.
As for the issue in general it's complicated. For example, I think Obama deserves full credit for eliminating bin Laden, but that means I have to give Trump credit for eliminating ISIS leader Al Baghdadi.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,227 posts)comes through in this interview. He seems unlikable. Good democrats will see through this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)I think among women - that is going to be a factor as the primaries ramp up. Seriously - if nothing else for women in the Democratic Party - I'm reading and hearing this more and more. And it is in my mind.
I can tolerate Bloomberg - but I don't like him.
I can tolerate Bernie - but I can't relate to him.
I like Warren - but I can't relate to her.
I like and relate to Biden and Amy.
I loved Julian, Corey and Kamala - because I could relate to the on so many levels.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)when Bernie would be absolutely torched, by those same people, if HE had said them. It demonstrates PERFECTLY why Bernie has pretty much already defeated Biden in the Democratic primary, and will soon dispatch with Mayor Mike. He'll be child's play for Bernie, as the dichotomy between the workin class and the privileged class will be in full view.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)70 year old men fighting each other. Im going start drinking.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)if Joe drops out and Mayor Mike is promoted to be his moderate replacement.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BootinUp
(47,151 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... who's too rich for someone to tell him he's racist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)TBH, it's hard to tell if he does.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... folk.
At the state level Biden is still whoopin azz
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,240 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/10025513223
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... OP'd the reason Bloomberg was in the race was to get democrats alarmed and in order.
He's done that, I'm tight Biden now gonna give another 20
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... something antagonistic against PoC like Bloomberg has.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)pass on #MelaninEnvy
I'm more concerned about restoring our democracy and the rule of law.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Read his words. And this is a billionaire. How did he ever get into that much money?
So THIS is what it's like to be a filthy rich celebrity. You can have microphones in your face while you turn on your stream of consciousness and let fly. What privilege.
No thanks, Mr. Bloomberg. I've seen enough.
"Kill it."
Really, Mike. You didn't think you'd ever have to answer to that one, eh?
Now you will.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided