minions could do against any of the other candidates. If they buy TV: ads against MB, he'd just buy one to refute the charges & slam them as liars to boot.

MB is not my first choice, but I sure would vote for him if he becomes our nominee.

quite the pompous ass... with limited thinking... if he doesn't understand the need for farmers to "think and analyze" he might be lacking some "gray matter"

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for what it said?

Look for yourself. See post 20.

It's not his strong suit.

Speaking so dismissively of farmers will not help him in the battleground states.

we're going to find all kinds of dismissive comments from Bloomie about most people in the US electorate.

I spent a decade in the shadow of NYC, Bloomberg is a potential tyrant. I realize that it might be preferable to a majority of us here to replace the current tyrant, but it might not appear that way to a lot of voters in the mushy middle who think their 401Ks are doing just fine.

Good grief, how can you not believe that..

curb that are more electable than Bloomberg.

How'd that work out?

We've got to go for the kill this time. There can be no chance-taking in 2020. If Bloomberg can do it, I'm all in.

I see no one else at this point, especially one running as a Democratic socialist - that is a recipe for sure defeat.

I'm sure he'll jump all over that idea.

I like Joe, but Abrams? You've got to realize Joe is getting up there in age. Is she ready to assume the presidency on a moments notice? She is a fine legislator, but the #1 spot? No, not quite yet.

bring some excitement and she is a pitbull which we also need someone who can attack attack attack and be effective, that's her. Plus she is extremely smart and a quick learner. All that plus Bloomberg's infrastructure and staff and yes money. It's scary how much money the GOPee has FUNNELING in from who knows where.

Winning Combo. Val Demmings would also work.

Go for the kill?

Only thing we're gonna kill with Bloomberg is the Democratic party.

We have PLENTY of qualified candidates ahead of him that will defeat Trump; Biden, Klobuchar, Warren, Pete / Bernie etc.

The more that comes out on Bloomberg the less I'm liking him.

that are out there? I don't see that happening.

There's that to consider.

women do.

It's why we ARE Democrats, remember?

I said that replacing Trump with Bloomberg wasn't the BEST choice, we've got several frontrunners who didn't buy their way into the process late who I think would be WAY better than Bloomberg, and also won't alienate battleground states by telling them how stupid they are. I also don't believe that Bloomberg is the best choice to face Trump.

Do I wish Trump would fuck off into the sun forever? Of course I do. I just don't think Bloomberg is the candidate that is most likely to make that happen.

He is running good, effective ads that kick the crap out of the real ENEMY.

Trump knows Bloomberg has his number - notice how he's afraid to go after Mike, yet he belittles all the others? Trump is scared to death of a smart, non-phony businessman.

candidates suggest that.

and invited anyone who had differing information to share it.

Which would be the smart way to discuss this issue.

People who frame of as a matter of intelligence are just arguing in bad faith.

He's not one

Biology and disease?

That just shows how out of touch this guy is.



I ran across this kid’s channel by accident a while back.

He covers some of the issues challenges of a modern farmer. It’s way more complicated than digging a hole and planting a seed.

University for it.

not taking others' words for what they say. See post 20.

wade through this crap here. The thanks go to BusyBeingBest for finding the correct quote.

He was talking about human history. At no point did he say you couldn't teach farmers IT.

Glad to have this handy for when I see this spin again.

Also really good to see he gets the disruption to the labor market that automation will only make worse over time!

Will make it that much easier for me to work to get him elected if he's our nominee

Some more than others, but like Yang said we are all pushing in the same direction.

See posts #17 and #20.

based on this carefully edited clip.

We can't do anything about what Fox News puts out there, but we can make sure we have the facts and spread them around as much as we can.

just a few weeks ago.

I still think it's a super bad take. Sue he seems to be talking about agrarian societies of antiquity vis a vis the plant a seed thing, but then says "I could teach that to anyone in this room." as though farming hasn't progressed with the advance of technology. The context only makes it -slightly- less bad, and when he talks about how progressive the marginal tax rate in the USA is without also talking about how the marginal tax rate is lower now than during periods of major growth (it topped 80% from the 40's to the 60's and is now sitting at under 40%), then I dunno what there is to defend here. He sounds like another rich guy telling poor people that rich people will save them.

teach anyone in this room". Edit to add: Thanks for replying about it, you are fair.

That has to count for something.

-Laelth

All technology, including basic agriculture when it first emerged in place of gathering, is labor-saving. Information technology is the same in that respect.

He can afford to run a ton of ads, and he knows how to run a 2020 campaign - using social media, memes, etc. He isn't a nice person but he could win anyway. We'd trade one loud mouthed jerk for another, but I'd vote for him over trump.

out of context and presented so that it completely lies about what the candidate was saying.

Dozens jump on agreeing with the lie.

Another Democratic candidate is smeared, ALL of us are hurt.

This is bullshit and you know it is.

For anyone who would like to see what he REALLY said, see post 20, with the quote in context.

It's dismissive. Also, as I said upthread, he's being super disingenuous about the marginal tax rate and also the bit about how making school cheaper makes it -harder- for poor people to get in is a well-trod right wing talking point.

He still made a joke belittling farmers. The context doesn't make it better.

of planting corn for 3000 years. After that, he talked about the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. Then he brought up the Information Age. So you can see he wasn't talking about modern agricultural practices or modern farmers, certainly not in a context of job training for modern farmers. His whole point was that we haven't had a farming economy for hundreds of years.

video are the same ones who say, "I am TOTALLY NOT susceptible to the influence of Bots!"

they count on--that people aren't going to dig up the clip on their own, because I had to search for it and then wade through an hour long presentation. I'm actually an Amy person for now, but am also considering Bloomberg, and want the truth and not what's being spread around as a take-down.

of winning.

I really appreciate you doing that work to show the absolute dishonesty of this thread.

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He is talking about the fact that jobs were available in the agrarian society "that lasted 3000 years," and he described farming in an agrarian society as a labor based process. Then he contrasted that to our technological society where jobs are disappearing.

Then why the jab that he could teach it to everyone in the room? Why's he talking about how lowering the cost of education hurts poor people? Why is he talking about how progressive the marginal tax rate is when the top marginal tax rates are lower now than they have been since the 40's?

I get what you're saying he was trying to say, but what he said was the flyover states are stupid.

That was the context immediately before the clip in question. Is it irrelevant?

Also "you need the context" is a derailing tactic.

Scroll through his feed and it's full of false cherry picks like the OP and smears against other Dems like for instance, Klobuchar- he thinks she's a racist... The OP source isn't legit and is a Democratic Party smear page.

..an example of what someone on MSNBC just called his "jerk-titude"

Then, by all means, let Bloomberg buy the nomination.