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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:21 PM Feb 2020

"Bernie's New Bro... Donald Trump"

https://www.mikebloomberg.com/news/bernies-new-bro-donald-trump

Bloomberg's Press Release 2/17/2020:

Bernie’s New Bro… Donald Trump

February 17, 2020

NEW YORK — In response to the repeated attacks by Bernie Sanders, his spokespeople and supporters, today Mike Bloomberg 2020 responded against baseless charges espoused online, in print, and on TV.

“It’s a shameful turn of events to see Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump deploy the very same attacks and tactics against Mike, but the reason is clear. At this point, the primary is Bernie’s to lose, and ours to win. Bernie knows this. Trump knows this. That’s why they are united in the campaign against Mike,” said Mike Bloomberg 2020 Campaign Manager Kevin Sheekey.

“Mike is in this race to defeat Donald Trump, and he’s the Democratic candidate who can get that done. This campaign will not sit idly by and allow these false attacks to stand without response,” Sheekey said.

The latest example comes today, with the Sanders campaign circulating a video of Mike’s comments — also shared by Donald Trump Jr. — that is taken completely out of context; the video cuts off Mike’s first sentence where he is referring to agrarian society that lasted 3,000 years, not farmers today. In just the past three months, Mike has traveled to 26 states. During that time, he has met with farmers and heard directly about the struggles they face. The Bernie Sanders campaign is choosing to push out falsehoods and sow divisions within the Democratic party.

In just the past week, Bernie Sanders’ National Press Secretary Briahna Joy Gray, Senior Advisor David Sirota, and National Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner have referred to Mike as a “racist” and an “oligarch,” implied Donald Trump is better than a fellow Democatic candidate for president, and called Bloomberg supporters “enablers.”

Some examples of these attacks are here:

“If you wouldn’t even condone a tweet criticizing a racist authoritarian like Bloomberg, you are a fence sitting enabler of the worst variety and have no business holding yourself holding yourself out as a Democrat — much less a progressive.” [Twitter, @briebriejoy, 2/16/20]

“Oligarch of the Month: Michael Bloomberg.” [Twitter, @ninaturner, 2/3/20]

“Moreover, we have no reason to believe Bloomberg’s newfound political commitments. He has demonstrated a willingness to change his stripes with the political winds, and because (sic) he’s self funded, is literally accountable to no one. The danger he presents can not be overstated.” [Twitter, @briebriejoy, 2/13/20]

“Trump will say he has a better record on criminal justice than Bloomberg. And he may be right.” [Twitter, @briebriejoy, 2/16/20]

“I’m told Mike Bloomberg isn’t an “oligarch” — he’s just a billionaire who buys elections and is a “part-time resident” of a foreign tax haven.”[Twitter, @davidsirota, 2/5/20]

“I may not have a PhD (yet!) but I DO have the good sense of knowing what makes for Oligarchy. Anyone caping for a BILLIONAIRE (with a media company) able to buy endless ads & influence party rules halfway through is PRECISELY a perpetuator of the corrupt system — ie an Oligarch!” [Twitter, @ninaturner, 2/3/20]

These attacks are unacceptable. All Democrats should focus on the critical task of choosing a candidate that can compete against Donald Trump and win. In the face of the most consequential election of our lifetimes, it is unfortunate that we are even talking about such slanderous attacks from other Democrats.

Mike Bloomberg and his campaign are hyperfocused on beating Donald Trump in November, and will continue to engage voters and supports across the country to do just that.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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"Bernie's New Bro... Donald Trump" (Original Post) George II Feb 2020 OP
LOL. Good luck trying to compare Bernie to Trump. DanTex Feb 2020 #1
But earlier today you were saying that those with the divisive tweets weren't "on the campaign"..... George II Feb 2020 #2
Different tweets. But you knew that. DanTex Feb 2020 #5
But Sanders' top echelon are leading and cheering on the attacks and encouraging them. George II Feb 2020 #6
What do you mean "them"? DanTex Feb 2020 #8
"Them" are the people online who are emulating the example set by Turner/Gray/Sirota.... George II Feb 2020 #10
You can't seriously be blaming internet trolls on Turner and Sirota. Give me a break. DanTex Feb 2020 #12
Yes I do read them. Some of them are disgusting, of the caliber of those vile "anonymous" tweets... George II Feb 2020 #17
Well, I guess we disagree. To me they are spot on. DanTex Feb 2020 #18
I'm sorry to hear that you agree. George II Feb 2020 #19
I blame bri-bri lapucelle Feb 2020 #30
To quote Sanders and others, "how do we know they're from the campaign"? Well, he all but... George II Feb 2020 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #20
"Country over party"? You DO realize that all three voted for Jill Stein, don't you? George II Feb 2020 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #22
Voting for Stein over Clinton, resulting in electing trump, is "country over party"? George II Feb 2020 #23
Welcome to DU! lapucelle Feb 2020 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #25
Didn't even have time to get a second donut, and the coffee is still hot! George II Feb 2020 #32
... lapucelle Feb 2020 #33
Lol. ehrnst Feb 2020 #29
Burnie's base of trolls...errr I mean BROs WA-03 Democrat Feb 2020 #11
There are trolls all over the internet. Has nothing to do with Bernie. DanTex Feb 2020 #13
The Bloomberg campaign has some strange ideas about fighting back. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #9
Yeah, I read each tweet and they're all accurate. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #39
Wide range of views here lees1975 Feb 2020 #3
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #4
Oh Oh.. Cha Feb 2020 #7
I like Bernie, but there's a disinformation campaign going on against Bloomberg BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #14
Is there any evidence of doctored clips of Bloomberg going around? DanTex Feb 2020 #15
Yes, carefully edited clip is going around that Fox and John Sununu are now using: BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #16
Bloomberg would lose to Trump because the left wing of the Democratic Party totodeinhere Feb 2020 #26
No real Democrat will sit out; if the left wants to support Trump, we'll find support from moderates LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #28
MF45 really wants Bernie to be his opponent. kimbutgar Feb 2020 #27
These are very mild attacks on sanders compared to what trump would use Gothmog Feb 2020 #34
Bloomberg showing he's not afraid of Bernie's or Trump's base, radius777 Feb 2020 #35
This is a very effective press release Gothmog Feb 2020 #36
Good on Bloomberg for calling out Briahna Joy Gray, Sirota, and Turner. They are well known Celerity Feb 2020 #37
Bloomberg campaign calls out specific tweets by Sanders aides Briahna Joy Gray, David Sirota and Ni Gothmog Feb 2020 #38
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
1. LOL. Good luck trying to compare Bernie to Trump.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020

Funny thing is, the tweets he highlights were spot on. I mean, does anyone on earth not think Bloomberg is an oligarch? He's the dictionary definition of oligarch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. But earlier today you were saying that those with the divisive tweets weren't "on the campaign".....
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Feb 2020

Those tweets are from the top echelon of the campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
5. Different tweets. But you knew that.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

The offensive tweets in his ad were from random people on twitter, some of whom weren't even Bernie supporters.

The tweets he cites in this press release are spot on, because everyone in the world knows that Bloomberg is the dictionary definition of an oligarch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. But Sanders' top echelon are leading and cheering on the attacks and encouraging them.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
8. What do you mean "them"?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020

The tweets from that press release, like I said, are spot on. Those have nothing to do with the tweets from random people on twitter.

Different tweets.

And the irony in all this, speaking of attacks, is that Bloomberg is trying to compare Bernie to Trump! I mean, after that, the moral high ground is gone forever. Sorry, Bloomberg!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. "Them" are the people online who are emulating the example set by Turner/Gray/Sirota....
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

...thinking "if it's good enough for Sanders' top campaign people it's good enough for me", and then they go further.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
12. You can't seriously be blaming internet trolls on Turner and Sirota. Give me a break.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

The tweets from Turner and Sirota have nothing to do with that other stuff. Have you read them? They are spot on. They are describing Bloomberg as an oligarch (he is) who changed his political positions on a dime when he decided do run for president (he did).

What is wrong with that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Yes I do read them. Some of them are disgusting, of the caliber of those vile "anonymous" tweets...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:06 PM
Feb 2020

And all three of them - Turner, Gray, and Sirota - have openly bragged about voting for Jill Stein. Turner actually considered being Stein's running mate!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
18. Well, I guess we disagree. To me they are spot on.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:08 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is an oligarch, obviously. And he did change his political views right before he decided to run for president. That's not rude, that's legitimate criticism of a politician.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. I'm sorry to hear that you agree.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. To quote Sanders and others, "how do we know they're from the campaign"? Well, he all but...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:11 PM
Feb 2020

...SIGNS HER PAYCHECK!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to George II (Reply #10)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. "Country over party"? You DO realize that all three voted for Jill Stein, don't you?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to George II (Reply #21)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Voting for Stein over Clinton, resulting in electing trump, is "country over party"?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to lapucelle (Reply #24)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Didn't even have time to get a second donut, and the coffee is still hot!
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
11. Burnie's base of trolls...errr I mean BROs
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:51 PM
Feb 2020

Nina Tuner is that the one from Jill Stein-Landia?

DanTex from New York you are being obtuse as usual.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. There are trolls all over the internet. Has nothing to do with Bernie.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:53 PM
Feb 2020

And what does me moving from Texas to New York have to do with anything?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
9. The Bloomberg campaign has some strange ideas about fighting back.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020

Probably not a good idea to repeat and highlight the attacks.

Also, that video shows Bernie at the end disavowing attacks. I don’t think the Sanders people could come up with something better for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
39. Yeah, I read each tweet and they're all accurate.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
3. Wide range of views here
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Feb 2020

But the comparison to Trump is unfair.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BusyBeingBest

(8,054 posts)
14. I like Bernie, but there's a disinformation campaign going on against Bloomberg
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020

that I believe some in Bernie's camp are spreading, and Republicans are also running with it in order to make Dems reject Bloomberg. Don't carefully edit video clips, Bernie crowd. That's a GOP tactic. I would support either guy when it comes down to it, as should we all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
15. Is there any evidence of doctored clips of Bloomberg going around?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BusyBeingBest

(8,054 posts)
16. Yes, carefully edited clip is going around that Fox and John Sununu are now using:
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
26. Bloomberg would lose to Trump because the left wing of the Democratic Party
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:40 PM
Feb 2020

would rather sit out the election than vote for him. No Democratic nominee can win without support from the left and Bloomberg cannot deliver that support. And it's not just about Bloomberg's money. Trump has already shown that he can win in spite of being massively outspent. And this time Trump will also be well financed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
28. No real Democrat will sit out; if the left wants to support Trump, we'll find support from moderates
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
27. MF45 really wants Bernie to be his opponent.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:42 PM
Feb 2020

His team has the dossier against Bernie ready to go. I bet MF45 is even practicing the punch lines he’ll use against Bernie. From a tv reality show view MF45 will look better on stage than Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
34. These are very mild attacks on sanders compared to what trump would use
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 02:15 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radius777

(3,635 posts)
35. Bloomberg showing he's not afraid of Bernie's or Trump's base,
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 02:46 AM
Feb 2020

which I think alot of Dem voters are impressed by, hence Bloomberg's rise in the polls.

The other candidates seem to want to 'make nice' with Bernie (and Trump to a lesser extent), which I've thought was a mistake from the beginning, causing them to be seen as weak and not the one who can carry the torch to victory.

Bloomberg also recognizes that the Dem base is not as fiscally leftwing or anti-capitalist as media echo chambers would have us believe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
36. This is a very effective press release
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:49 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,398 posts)
37. Good on Bloomberg for calling out Briahna Joy Gray, Sirota, and Turner. They are well known
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:55 AM
Feb 2020

Democratic Party bashers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
38. Bloomberg campaign calls out specific tweets by Sanders aides Briahna Joy Gray, David Sirota and Ni
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 08:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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