Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBloomberg Will Dismiss Rivals at Debate
WASHINGTON, Feb 18 (Reuters) - When Michael Bloomberg steps onto the Democratic debate stage for the first time on Wednesday, he will be ready to dismiss rivals like Joe Biden, who as vice president made speeches that somebody writes for him, and Pete Buttigieg, mayor of a town.
Bloomberg told Reuters in an interview earlier this month he would contrast their experience to his success as billionaire chief executive of global financial information and media company Bloomberg LP and three-time mayor of New York City.
None of them would know how to run a big organization, he said of the seven other Democratic candidates seeking the nomination to challenge Republican President Donald Trump in November.
Some of his rivals have made clear they see the televised debate as their best opportunity to subject Bloomberg, who has been rising fast in the polls, to greater public scrutiny.
He will face tough questions over his past support for policies that have been widely criticized as racially discriminatory.
He will also have to defend himself against the charge he is trying to buy the election with his self-financed campaign. Public filings show he spent $188 million of his own money through December.
https://in.reuters.com/article/usa-election-bloomberg-rivals-idINL1N2AE1RL
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Stop and frisk
ADA taxi cab issues
Cutting Medicaid and Medicare
Sexist and racist statements
Refusal to take voter questions at CNN townhall
Increased homelessness
China
Failure on minority/women businesses
Question him on policy. Because his policy has been terrible in many areas.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CalFione
(571 posts)His positions and past actions are his weak spot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)treatment of Occupy Wall Street at Zucotti Park
treatment of Bush era protestors.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
2naSalit
(86,822 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Let him buy the nomination and we're going to see record low Dem turnout and record high 3rd party voting come November.
I have to believe we're better than that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Hilarious desperation and rationalization. All of your posts have been hilarious recently. You used to be so much better than this. But that is the Bernie Sanders impact. His supporters lose sight of the real world
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)It's not me that's feeling desperate. The 'myth of the moderate middle' and its various assumptions about "swing voters" and "independents" (none of which is supported by actual data) has people willing to overlook racism, misogyny and bribery. But when you lessen the contrast between Trump and his opponent, the disenchanted and jaded will become more so.
Various pundits and voters (with their anecdotal 'evidence') are still subscribing to outdated "conventional wisdom," like the people who think the electorate today is no different than it was in 1972. Swing voters and independents are not who people think they are. They don't constitute this mass of ideologically-similar, astute moderates patiently waiting to see which party will put up the most centrist candidate. That's the crux of the narrative many subscribe to, but - again - it's not supported by data (in fact, quite the opposite). Just as there's no evidence of mischievous crossover voting or voter fraud ever having an impact.
Anybody who claims to have the winning formula for winning moderate, independent or undecided voters is making things up. Perhaps more centrist policies will appeal to some voters in each of these categories but so will more extreme policies.12
And come election day, these potential swing voters may not ultimately care all that much about policy. They dont tend to identify themselves based on ideology, and they dont follow politics all that closely.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)for which NYC eventually paid out over $ 1 million dollars in settlements.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)Being Vice President isn't helping to run the biggest organization in the US?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
backtoblue
(11,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,875 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wisteria
(19,581 posts)He also has judiciary, Foreign policy and Senatorial experience. Bloomberg cant come close to this. Bloomberg is a small man, with a big head.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,881 posts)The position has no consequential responsibility.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Did a lot. So did Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)The only constitutional duties of a VP are to preside over the Senate and break ties if necessary, and to take over if the president dies or becomes incapacitated. But as a practical matter vice presidents since WWII have worked very closely with presidents in running the country. They know how to do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,493 posts)Certainly had consequential responsibilities.
If you meant to say that there are no responsibilities inherent in the office, I'd mostly agree with you, but experience shows that their real-world responsibilities are often quite consequential.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Quixote1818
(28,983 posts)However I think it would be effective head to head with Trump because he is just a lot more successful than Trump who is a buffoon trust fund baby.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wisteria
(19,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)This is one thing that pisses me off.
These rich assholes thinks their financial success somehow means they can run a government.
Bloomberg, you're not going to be a CEO who can change the rules when it suits you.
I was about ready to put Bloomberg over Bernie (and I'm not a fan of either guy), but if I had to choose right now between the two, Bernie would get my vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)His first two terms were considered quite successful. Third term was meh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)That is a positive for him. I hate it when candidates think their financial success somehow translates to running a government.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,101 posts)That is a rarity for this past century in US government.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
denem
(11,045 posts)Two Wells Fargo CEOs lost their heads when Elizabeth took them on. Go Liz!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,456 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,568 posts)Well, that's a comfort.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)But he's not uniquely qualified, as he seems to be claiming.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)an authoritarian role, to being president of a democratic state, representing democracy across the world. Many felt he did not lead NYC in accordance with democratic values and ideals. The number of people whose lives he affected not the point, although there again there is no comparison. Corporations are a different structure than a democratic nation. Could be the problem with leaders from a business model. That was the experience he cited.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)I really don't know much about him or what he did as NY mayor; I am getting mixed reviews. I agree that the business model is not an especially good one for running a country, and I get pretty annoyed with people who think managing a business and managing a government are the same. There will be some overlapping skills, obviously, but a good business manager will not necessarily be a good president. Bloomberg, though, might at least be competent at day-to-day operations; Trump can't even do that. I hope we can do better than either Bloomberg or Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)I would have found him, however, more insightful about the role of the U,S, president had he cited his mayoral experience and not his role as CEO of a corporation! However, given mixed reviews, he steps in hot water if he says I ran a large city, representative of America in its diversity and complexity blah blah.
Whoops. Invites that criticism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,548 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
denem
(11,045 posts)if he does not keep it in check. Disdainful contempt is what Democrats want to see against trump, but not now from a johnny-come-lately who has not won a single delegate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Dominating short sound bites. I don't know if Bloomberg will accomplish that. I'm not sure what his style will be.
If he can accomplish a ton with a few words, he's well on his way. His commercials excel along those lines.
The longwinded policy crap doesn't work
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,384 posts)I dont even know what this election is about anymore.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,291 posts)Truly Bizarro World.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,025 posts)his cheating with the Russians won't make him win.
If we don't do this, the rule of law will be gone and our Democracy will be destroyed.
This election is about nothing else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Swfladem
(88 posts)The Democrats have always been about working class. Thats why the support of the unions and minimum wage raises are there. What does it say about society when both parties are headed by billionaires? What does it say about our party? America is not a company to run. It is an idea to achieve. Right now, so many people out there work hard to have nothing. A 100k a year household is a few lost paychecks from ruin. A billionaire will not help this economic disparity. But a Democrat will.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,291 posts)Hopefully the idea has not become too idealistic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DarthDem
(5,257 posts)I'm a little bit torn. I want Joe to win but - assuming Klobuchar can't connect with POCs - I think this guy is my second choice. We must defeat the fake president at all costs.
I want to see him debate. And I want to know what sort of people he would appoint to SCOTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Can't take the republican out of Bloomberg
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)It's not "Republican" to acknowledge that the United States is an organization ... the wealthiest and most powerful organization on Earth. We are "organized" as a republic. I see no problem with that.
-Laelth
P.S. Even a Republican Mayor of New York is likely to be more liberal than most of the Democrats I know in the part of the country in which I live.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Looking forward to it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I have watched six of the eight debates that we have had so far. I have have experienced unprecedented "warm fuzzies" after watching each of them because our bench is so deep this year and because liberal policy is now, more or less, mainstream in the Democratic Party. I am proud of my party for the first time in a long time.
But I have this sneaking suspicion that Bloomberg is going to waste our (other) candidates on stage. The OP explains how. I think his attacks will be effective, for better or for worse.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)"His job was not to manage but to do some things the president needed done"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden