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Rustynaerduwell

(665 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:39 PM Feb 2020

In the bell curve of American political thought

any Democratic candidate would get the vote from everyone to his left, and some to his right. It seems to me that the closer the Democratic candidate is to the center, the more votes he will get in November. It seems so obvious to me. I don't see how any GOTV campaign changes this basic fact. I believe we need to start left of center and build more to the left rather than fighting from the left and losing everything to the right.

I am extremely liberal. Most of my friends, and certainly most acquaintances, are to the right of me. I'd rather have a candidate who I don't always agree with but who wins them over than one who's ideas I align with that fails to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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In the bell curve of American political thought (Original Post) Rustynaerduwell Feb 2020 OP
It's hard to say sometimes. bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #1
Left of center is right or even right of center KPN Feb 2020 #2
That seems true, but I don't believe it. Rustynaerduwell Feb 2020 #3
It's true on the labor middle/working class economic wellbeing fronts. Wages have been stagnant for KPN Feb 2020 #4
 

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
1. It's hard to say sometimes.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:42 PM
Feb 2020

I agree with what you said, but I’ve also done canvassing in Indiana in 2018 for Joe Donnelly for midterms. Donnelly was a VERY moderate Democrat. He ended up losing his Senate seat and it wasn’t particularly close, and I canvassed quite a few Democrats who didn’t vote for him because they felt he wasn’t liberal enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,662 posts)
2. Left of center is right or even right of center
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

45 years ago. We’ve been doing that all that time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Rustynaerduwell

(665 posts)
3. That seems true, but I don't believe it.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020

We have a more universal health care, better gun control laws, legal gay marriage, more failed attempts at restricting abortion than successes- and more support for the right to an abortion than ever, pot legalized in more states, more progressive women in Congress ever, more environmental protection (despite Trump's reversals).
Hell, 45 years ago Medicare for all wouldn't even be debated. You wouldn't see mixed race or same sex couples on TV let alone in commercials.

While America lurches loudly and clumsily to the right it inches quietly and consistently to the left.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,662 posts)
4. It's true on the labor middle/working class economic wellbeing fronts. Wages have been stagnant for
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020

for nearly 45 years, cost of higher education has sky-rocketed as has health care. The number of union jobs has been in precipitous decline due to union busting laws and outsourcing, employee benefits are way down compared to mid-70s, the percent of jobs that are not full-time and the number of people who work multiple jobs to make ends meet has skyrocketed.

The list goes on. The American middle and working classes have been in economic decline for nearly 5 decades due in large part to changes in and lack of adequate economic and labor policy.

It's absolutely true. Why do you think populism has and is growing in both major parties?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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