Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhy isn't Tom Steyer being considered a viable moderate?
He certainly had a better time on the debate stage than Bloomberg.
His resources are comparable, and his positions are sound.
He seems like Bloomberg with less arrogance - and far less baggage.
He missed this debate - and it's treated as if he no longer exists.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Except for how to get away with murder.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
musicblind
(4,484 posts)As Biden supporter, I hate to say that, but it's true
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)In 2019, I resented the fact that his money mattered more than his political skills. After last night he might as well have been Bill Clinton, when compared to Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)I like him too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
musicblind
(4,484 posts)He may be a billionaire, but I truly believe his heart is in the right place. I believe he loves this country and wants to see a progressive agenda in the White House.
Not all rich people are jerks, and he's a great example. The main reason he suffered was he didn't fair as well in the debates against polished linguists like Biden, Warren, and Buttigieg. Sometimes, how you sound matters as much as what you say.
He's smart as hell, though. I'm glad he's on our side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)Term limits. A huge non-starter. We wanted to impeach Trump without Nancy Pelosi, Jerome Nadler, and (I assume) Adam Schiff? Probably lots of other great Dems who've been in Congress for a while.
National referendum. I live in CA. Our ballot initiative system is a disaster. Proposition 13 anyone?
And his stupid ad says he wants to shake up Washington. Washington is in chaos. We need to restore sanity, not shake things up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)But he makes a valid point (though I don't agree with him on that).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)But it shows me a weakness in his thinking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)A catastrophe!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I think it would get more things done and fewer people would be afraid of upsetting primary voters all the time. Just my opinion, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)But I lost track of what the requirements were for last night.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)He is polling better in Nevada and South Carolina and would have probably otherwise qualified for last night's debate, but there weren't enough qualifying polls released in the eligible time frame from those two states for him to qualify.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)But the DNC screwed him for real like the way Bernie pretends they screwed him in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)and hee was only one point from second in the Beacon Research poll out of Nevada.
Both of those polls were released just last week.
How does someone leading one the few polls out of Nevada not land on the Nevada debate stage?
After all, it was called the "Nevada" debate, not the "National" debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)wasn't. They could change the rules for one billionaire but not for another billionaire. I wonder what the difference is that appeals to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)He seems assertive and confident - without being obnoxious and arrogant.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)So I see your point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)And he can expose Trump as a business fraud with roughly the same credibility Bloomberg could. And he won't get outspent either.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)No one is asking Steyer, how many NDA's do you have?
No one needs to ask him, why would you embrace and amplify stop and frisk?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nobuddy
(215 posts)Every single commercial break - same commercial. I actually never tired of it because the commercial opened with him calling trump a criminal.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)There are others who prioritize climate change and who have more experience than he does but if Steyer somehow pulls off a miracle and becomes the nominee I'd be glad to support him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,091 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:54 PM - Edit history (1)
Great ads can do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)...where he spent his resources; however, his numbers in Iowa and New Hampshire were terrible, as are his national numbers, because he wasn't spending as much money in those states. Contrast that with Bloomberg, whose big spending was specifically directed nationally rather than specifically targeted for a portion of the early voting states, which is why he been able to do nationally what Steyer was able to do in the couple of states where he spent big (e.g., build up a potentially double digit base of support).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patricia92243
(12,601 posts)have us believe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StevieM
(10,500 posts)He has earned my respect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NedBraden
(53 posts)Why?
Simple answer : there's a richer billionaire. And that's what the Bloomers want.
A richer billionaire to BUY our party.
Not a minor billionaire like stryker, but a big $hot like "MIKE," ( all propaganda , no substance and after last night possibly an undercover repuke).
"MIKE!" ha$ what it take$ to get it done.
No run along stryker with your Democrat progressive stories and let MIKE takeover.
MIKE just needs to cut a few checks and he's on the way to buying the party.
I'm feeling even sicker to my stomach than I thought was possible. The orange cheeto was bad enough,but oligarch MIKE being allowed to buy the party is truly disgusting. Maybe even worse than cheato , in most regards.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)The Sanders crew says so. Sad
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks - you guys have too much money - don't give us any more.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jg10003
(976 posts)Bloomberg has already spent 300 million and shows no sign of slowing down. Steyer does not have that level of liquidity. Steyer's total worth is "only" 1.5 billion. Bloomberg could spend 2 billion without cashing out a single share of stock.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Biden is the best choice by far.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden