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orleans

(34,086 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:35 AM Feb 2020

if we lose warren or sanders in the senate

(and they will be replaced by a republican thanks to the republican governors of those states) will we be able to flip the senate blue?

"Democrats have a challenging path to capturing the Senate in 2020. Republicans currently have a 53-47 majority, which means that to take control, Democrats will need, at a minimum, a net gain of three seats and the vice presidency (the VP breaks ties in the Senate). But even if Democrats pick up exactly three seats and win the White House, they could still miss out on controlling the Senate. How? If the new president leaves behind a vacant Senate seat in a state with a Republican governor."

snip

"The good news for Democrats is that both Massachusetts and Vermont have laws that call for expedited special elections to fill Senate seats, so an appointed Republican might not be in place very long (unless of course the appointee were to win the special election). But at least during the appointment period, Republicans would have an edge in the Senate. And that could delay confirmation of the new Democratic president’s Cabinet and judicial appointees, as well as the passage of White House-backed legislation. Other bad news for Democrats: If the appointee were to run in the special election, there’s at least a small chance that person could win and keep the seat in GOP hands."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-winning-the-white-house-could-cost-democrats-the-senate-at-least-temporarily/?fbclid=IwAR34gUjLhuPJLuA47APu5TSY6w6N3OFCScUT8kVXNqpsBOfhtAW_PGP4KTM

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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sprinkleeninow

(20,268 posts)
1. This exact thought came to me recently. And I have not savviness regarding much in politics. eom
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Wabbajack_

(1,300 posts)
2. In MA
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:02 AM
Feb 2020

The appointee only serves for a little bit until a fast special election. In 2004 Democrats abolished the appoinment power alltogether when Romney was Governor and the Kerry the nominee.

Democrats have a veto proof majority and can change the law in VT too if it needs to be changed.

I can't see Republicans winning special elections for Senate in either state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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cstanleytech

(26,336 posts)
4. Plus the governor's face the potential of riling up the voters if they appoint a political hack
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:00 AM
Feb 2020

and that is something they want to avoid as it can potentially hurt their own party not to mention hurt themselves if they are going to be running for another term.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nobuddy

(215 posts)
7. "I can't see Republicans winning special elections for Senate in either state."
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:42 AM
Feb 2020

We might nominate Coakley again.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
9. Take nothing for granted
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:27 AM
Feb 2020

Remember Coakley vs. Brown?

Plus some right wing crackpot did fairly well against Warren last time.

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KPN

(15,665 posts)
5. Non-issue in VT and MA. Temp spot of an R by an
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:44 AM
Feb 2020

an R governor in those States would backfire in the special election, especially if the temp appointees served to block a newly elected Democratic President’s cabinet and court appointments.

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patricia92243

(12,605 posts)
6. Hadn't thought of it that way - many people here need to give
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:39 AM
Feb 2020

this some serious thought.

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Squinch

(51,058 posts)
8. We'd get a new Democratic seat in Vermont.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:49 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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brooklynite

(94,794 posts)
11. Neither Governor is likely to appoint a Trump-loving Republican.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Gothmog

(145,685 posts)
12. The Governors of both Mass. and Vermolnt are republicans who will get to select replacement
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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