Democratic Primaries
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Biden beats Trump, head to head in every poll, but increases his lead to 13% in the latest. Anyone who cares about this country should have, as their first priority, to defeat Trump in 2020. You can speculate all you want about who's the strongest candidate to do that, but the fact remains, Biden does that.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Trump is a very tough act to follow when it comes to claims of inappropriate touching.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Celerity
(43,408 posts)Flores comes out here
https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html
the poll
https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/PPP_Release_National_40119.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mac56
(17,569 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,408 posts)I already posted the 13 point lead one above that the OP claimed was post accusations (it was not)
here are the others (and they are NOT national and have high margins of error)
Nevada (very limited as well, it is only people who voted in the Democratic caucus)
http://emersonpolling.com/2019/03/31/nevada-2020-biden-and-sanders-lead-democratic-primary-field-trump-looks-to-flip-the-silver-state-red/
Iowa (very limited as well, it is only people who voted in the Democratic caucus)
https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/iowa-2020-biden-and-san
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,408 posts)Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,408 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)Joe Biden remains the most qualified both nationally and, especially, globally.
The world wants Joe Biden 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
louis c
(8,652 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Bernie Sanders had a 12% lead Hillary had a 5-9% lead on election day morning and we know the rest of the story.
How many Russian organizations had anything to do with this polling or any Presidential Polling?
See we just don't know.
Its too damn early for polling..
If Trumps dementia gets worse we will be running against Pence and probably Paul Ryan
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
louis c
(8,652 posts)10 days before the election, only to say 4 days later , "Never mind".
Oh, and by the way, Hillary won by 2 points and the difference between winning and losing was probably the 2% or 3% of Bernie voters voting 3rd party. After all, they were never Democrats, so who cares?
We need to win over just a small percentage of the blue collar workers in Penn, Wisc, and Mich who voted for Trump in 2016. Those people are definitely not on DU. If any Democrat needs to win over a DUer once they are nominated, that DUer should be on a different web site.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemDerek
(13 posts)Swiftboating Kerry, Birthering Obama, Pedofiling Hillary, two of those three smear campaigns ending up with GOPhuckyourseles in the White House. Let's not fall for BS this time!
EDITED TO ADD: I interpreted the OP's title as a sarcastic invitation to post bullshit allegations about Biden. Yep, just double-checked: the words "Post Allegations" were not hyphenated, and were immediately preceded by a colon.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Karadeniz
(22,535 posts)I don't see why she doesn't have higher numbers. If you read R. Reich's article on how the American economy and society just can't be sustained under current practices, his solutions were in line with Warren's. Biden doesn't want to shock the system, but I think we need it. Oh, well, back to the holding pattern.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
louis c
(8,652 posts)Duers are far more intelligent, knowledgeable, sensitive and compassionate than the average voter.
If we want our candidates to reflect DUers traits, we'll lose every national election. And before you bring up Obama, the Sept. 15 2008 economic crisis created by Republicans made him a can't lose candidate. Any Democrat was winning after the Lehman Bros. collapse.
The swing voters vote on "feelings", not knowledge. Biden leads in the polls because he makes the average voter "feel comfortable". Biden can lose the primary, but he can't lose the election against Trump. And I'm afraid, knowing the average voter as I think I do, he may be the only Democrat who can win in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,408 posts)bi-partisan in nature.
1 The repeal of Glass-Steagall
On November 12, 1999, President Clinton signed the Financial Services Modernization Act (the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act) that repealed Glass-Steagall.
On November 4, the final bill resolving the differences was passed by the Senate 908 and by the House 36257. The legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.
Glass Steagall Act of 1933, Its Purpose and Repeal
This 1933 Law Would Have Prevented the Financial Crisis
https://www.thebalance.com/glass-steagall-act-definition-purpose-and-repeal-3305850
2 The even more odious Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which re-legalised most OTC derivatives including credit swaps (derivatives of multiple flavours were the instruments that were so crucial to the meltdown in sub-prime mortgages).
The House passed the Conference Report and, therefore, H.R. 4577 in a vote of 292-60. The Senate passed it by unanimous consent (over the objections of Paul Wellstone and James Inofe). Clinton signed it into law on December 21, 2000.
How Congress Rushed a Bill that Helped Bring the Economy to Its Knees
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-congress-rushed-a-bil_b_181926
Great video about Brooksley Born, who trying to warn about this, and was completely shut down by Lawrence Summers, Robert Rubin, et. al
The Warning
Long before the economic meltdown, one woman tried to warn about the threat to the financial system...
https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-the-warning/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
louis c
(8,652 posts)two Republicans. The measure was attached to a must pass budget bill without a Democratic majority in either branch.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,408 posts)When the two chambers could not agree on a joint version of the bill, the House voted on July 30 by a vote of 241132 (R 58131; D 1821; Ind. 10) to instruct its negotiators to work for a law which ensured that consumers enjoyed medical and financial privacy as well as "robust competition and equal and non-discriminatory access to financial services and economic opportunities in their communities" (i.e., protection against exclusionary redlining).
The bill then moved to a joint conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. Democrats agreed to support the bill after Republicans agreed to strengthen provisions of the anti-redlining Community Reinvestment Act and address certain privacy concerns; the conference committee then finished its work by the beginning of November.[16][17] On November 4, the final bill resolving the differences was passed by the Senate 908, and by the House 36257. The legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.
Senate
52 Republicans and 38 Democrats voted for the bill. Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama (Republican, formerly a Democrat) voted against it, as did 7 Democratic Senators: Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Richard Bryan (Nevada), Byron Dorgan (N. Dakota), Russell Feingold (Wisc.), Tom Harkin (Iowa), Barbara Mikulski (Maryland) and Paul Wellstone (Minn.) Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Illinois) again voted "present", while Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) did not vote.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354
House
Republicans voted 2075 in favor with 10 not voting. Democrats voted 15551 in favor, with 5 not voting. Independent Rep. Bernard Sanders of Vermont voted no.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1999/roll570.xml
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)LIAR?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)If this election is going to be fought and won in WI, MI, and PA, Joe is the only way to go. I don't think the Lucy Flores accusations will resonate strongly with the voters we need to win over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
doc03
(35,345 posts)Trump with women.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)I just dont think the rest have the best chance of rebuilding the Blue Wall.
I genuinely like Biden and he makes me nostalgic for Obama.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)By STEVEN SHEPARD 08/22/2018 05:49 AM EDT
Against the two best-known candidates former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) Trump trails 12 percentage points and is mired in the low 30s. Biden leads Trump, 43 percent to 31 percent, and Sanders lead over the president is virtually the same, 44 percent to 32 percent.
Trump also trails Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) the first-term senator he has mocked as Pocahontas, which Warren calls a racial slur but by a smaller margin, 34 percent to 30 percent. A plurality of voters, 36 percent, are undecided.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/22/trump-2020-democrats-matchup-790890
Don't pretend that Biden, who STILL has not entered the race, is our only savior against Trump, that is false.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)in mysterious ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)He does.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Stuart G
(38,434 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)Link to tweet
The challenge that any Democratic candidate faces is that Joe Biden has deep roots and a huge national organization of party officials. Biden is beloved by the party rank and file, and it is going to take more than what his political adversaries tried to turn into a scandal to stop his candidacy.
After seeing the behavior of porn star paying off, Access Hollywood tape accused sexual assaulter Trump, Joe Bidens behavior doesnt rise to the level of disqualifying in the minds of many Democrats.
Democratic voters may choose a different nominee, but Joe Biden is showing why he is going to be hard to beat in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)While I am undecided, I do think that Joe Biden is the most electable candidate.
Link to tweet
They are also unlikely to decide hes not progressive enough. Being vice president to the most progressive president weve had (including his role in seemingly pushing Obama forward on gay marriage) has its advantages. Moreover, the media periodically lapses into the delusion that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) are representative of the entire party.
The recent Monmouth poll of Iowa voters is instructive: Biden not only leads, but has a 78 percent favorability rating and support from the kind of Democrats who show up in primaries moderate, older voters. Biden has support from 44 percent of seniors and 35 percent of self-described moderate and conservative Democrats. Among lower income/working-class voters whom Democrats have been desperate to attract, he gets 38 percent. Those kind of voters not self-identified socialists, not Bernie activists on social media are numerous and dependable voters. And theyre not exactly the kind to punish him for hugging people in distress.
The most important hurdle for Biden and for his competitors will be convincing voters he can beat President Trump. Right now, Biden has a big advantage. While issue positions are important to Iowa Democrats, the overwhelming majority (64%) prefer to have a nominee who would be strong against Trump even if they disagree with that candidate on most issues, the pollsters found. If they were forced to choose, just 24% say they would favor a candidate who they are aligned with on the issues even if that person would have a hard time beating Trump. Biden garners more support among voters who prioritize beating Trump (33%) than he does among those who are looking for issue alignment (15%).
I agree with the premise of this piece. I know Joe Biden and I like Joe Biden. The polling indicates that Joe is the most electable candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden