Would ever trust her.

has officially gotten on my nerves. This woman has issues that have nothing to do with Joe Biden.

She is creating drama out of bullshit.

Someone needs to tell her to leave it alone. She already said what she needed to.

Dying for fame I guess.

part of the reason I don’t believe her in particular is because of the picture with Biden and Longoria at the same event.

Biden was whispering something in Longoria’s ear and was close to her hair. No one saw or photographed Biden and Flores in the same way although she claims it happened. I bet Flores was looking at that picture thinking she could use that as cover to spin her story since it showed Biden close to Longoria’s hair so no one would question her own story of Biden and her hair —-I.e, opportunist . Official event photographers, and not one person saw or photographed what she claims.

You are right, she is no Longoria.

there were many pics of her and Biden but none showing he was close to her in any way .

with eva Longoria while Lucy Flores stood by . and no pics to show he got close to flores in any way.

No amount of anything Biden says or does, beyond dropping out of the race, will satisfy her.

She's holding the football and expecting Biden to be Charlie Brown.

Time to move on.

I can understand why Flores doesn't like it. But then Trump weaponized it, so now it is no longer about her. It is about how not to make "But his hands!" a Trump applause line for 2020. And one very good way is to joke about it. If Biden laugh's off or otherwise deflects Trump's attacks, he wins.

I do think Joe would be smart to cut it out with the jokes on such a sensitive subject... but, hey, that's just me.


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I only heard Joe Biden mention the controversy once when he put his arm around one of the kids he invited on stage. In typical Biden fashion he said (with a grin) something to the effect: 'And I asked his permission before getting into his space.' The crowd laughed at that.

If Flores is incensed about this it only underscores what I said before: Nothing Joe Biden does, light-hearted or not, is going to work for Flores. She did not accept his video comments which the majority of viewers felt were genuine and sincere. And so this becomes another tempest in a teapot because as far as she's concerned he didn't fully apologize.

There's no winning here. Time to move on.

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They have panel after panel of all these women, mostly Democrats, giving Joe a piece of their mind... turn on CNN right now!!

It's not the kind of PR Joe needs right now... especially after that effective video he just put out two days ago saying he "gets it." I think we can all agree with that!!


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But, go on, keep minimizing women's thoughtful comments on this subject... if you think this is helpful to the Democratic cause, you're SERIOUSLY mistaken.


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can flip Pennsylvania, that Trump is obsessed with that fact. The Trumpster went into a rage after listening to Biden's speech to the Electrical Union, not because of Biden's quip on hugs or personal space but because he's afraid the man is stealing his thunder with the unions.

Of course, this isn't the sort of PR Biden needs but it's what he has at the moment. As far as I'm concerned regardless of what the talking heads screech about, the vast majority of Democrats are interested in wiping the floor with Trump and his enablers. Electability is everything in 2020. As far as the meme du jour? The one thing we know that tomorrow it will be something else.

I think Biden can weather this controversy because no one has accused him of malicious intent, regardless of Flores and others moving the goal posts on what an apology constitutes. It's becoming noise at this point and sadly is diminishing the strength of the MeToo messaging with a bunch of nonsense.

But on this, you and I agree. It's on Joe Biden to handle this controversy effectively. Or not.

Time will tell.

Not coming to a bookstore near you anytime soon.

15 minutes are up. Time to move on.

and give her the ability to rekindle her political career. It won't work.

Time to move on. I trust that Joe Biden will conduct himself in an appropriate manner.

But the video he put out yesterday, he was contrite.

But, go watch the jokes he just made at the union speech, a mere TWO DAYS later... now CNN is running roundtables with women panels discussing whether Joe REALLY gets it.

TBH, these kind of jovial, off the cuff comments by Joe, especially regarding such a serious subject that threatens to sink his campaign at such an early stage - and made by a seasoned politician no less! - are troubling.


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that hall was thinking about it in the back of their minds, and he is not going to pretend that isn't the case

If people have a problem with that, then I suggest they vote for someone else

"politically correct", or in bad taste, then they won't vote for him either

The voters will decide

So, I guess there's NOTHING to discuss... hahaha!!


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people can, and will discuss all they want until the cows come home to graze, and I doubt very much that this specific issue is going change anyone's view on Biden one way or another.

However, issues regarding domestic policies, and how the U.S. should deal with our international neighbors, that is another story.

just my opinion, and it won't even buy ya a cup of coffee, though I would

He's going after those voters in states that HRC lost by a breath in 2016. Most women in suburbia do not equate grabbing by the shoulders with grabbing the P---y.

Go Joe!

Or, to news organizations that will only further raise questions in voters' minds... it's an "unforced error."


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Flores would be viewed as a hero and her word would be unquestioned gospel here. Every post would be about how the 7 accusations are "disqualifying" and he should drop out of the race. As far as I know,none of us who support Sanders/Warren have called for Biden to withdraw. Instead, we let the process play out and give Vice President Biden the time,space and respect to make his case.I would hope that the same restraint and respect would be shown to all of our Democratic candidates.

All of our candidates will be victims of oppo research. Let's stick together and support them when they need us the most. Examining their records and policy positions is welcomed but seizing on any negative report,whether it be true,false or ridiculous will only divide us. Let's not let that happen. We need to be unified to get that orange cancer out of the White House.

So, tell that to CNN and the rest of the mainstream media!!


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see and judge...which I did and very clearly he was not joking, acknowledging ....but not joking.

but, certainly, not everyone will see it that way, as the media coverage is showing. My point is a simple one: why even provide critics an OPENING to even ask the question whether Joe truly "gets it." How is that not readily apparent?!


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here, I mean as far as the pundits go. The first comment he made about Lonnie I could see being seen as possible "joking". The crowd also laughed both times so that doesn't help.

In any case people do want to move on or at least I do...so on to the next gaffe shall we?

but as a victim of serious sexual harassment - the fuck me or you're fired kind, I'm having a lot of trouble mustering up more sympathy for someone who seems to be reveling in her victimhood. Either get the police to charge him or get the fuck over it already.

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to the eve of Biden’s announcement combined with her admitted goal of talking about Biden instead of Bernie’s 2016 harassment claims on his campaign have really exposed her.

Thanks for these, Cha! Great find.

....I sure wish I knew why she was grinning ear to ear and "touching" him on that stage at the end of the speeches.

they also indicated that the audience laughed, which is why they probably jumped to that conclusion.

My comment was that he was acknowledging the issue, not based on a "negative" connotation.

Yes, it was an assumption, but based on what you just related, I don't think my assumption was too much off the mark, and my comment definitely was meant as a criticism of Joe Biden

to make light of it, he was acknowledging it. Whatever, I'm ready to get this show on the road and have ALL THE DEMS steal news cycles away from scummy rump

Biden making a joke

blind partisan.

With those jokes, Joe lost some of the political capital he gained with his well done video response from two days ago saying he "gets it."


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negative way as some are trying to portray.

If some people, or the press want to take it in the worst possible way, so be it, but the crowd he was speaking to, sure didn't take it that way.

Lucy Flores, and the others who are/were offended by Biden's touching, speak for themselves. To presume they are speaking for all women is not a valid assumption, and Stephanie Carter said this quite clearly when Lucy Flores tried to characterize Charter's experience the same as hers:

"But her story is not mine," Carter said of Flores."

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/01/stephanie-carter-defends-joe-biden/3329501002/

and that is the bottom line. For some this will be viewed as offensive, and for others this will be viewed as not offensive, and that is the way it is for many things. In the end it will be the public that decides

… Lucy Flores is obviously not over the trauma. She should seek professional help. I know the limelight must be difficult and trust the media to respect her privacy as she goes through the healing process. Farewell, Lucy - we will remember your contributions.

.... she has elected to go ahead and drown it because she is highly pissed that her initial accusation did not get the traction she expected.

Just go away. Your 15 minutes are up. It was good to see and hear Joe Biden at the Union meeting. Perhaps Ms. Flores needs to reflect on her behavior.

"offended outrage". PLEASE.

unexpectedly wrong or something like that. Lucy, in the words of that immortal philosopher Kenny Rogers, "you gotta know when to to fold'em".

Ridiculous.

he has shown the way to avoid paying a price for them.

I am so sick of this shit.

uber sensitivity.

She is trying to destroy a good-hearted man for the benefit of ???

Joe deserves his last shot at his dream. Even though he may be judged too much in the past for this contest, his collegiality, and non-sexual affectionate gestures from another time are not a legitimate reason to dismiss him as a viable candidate.

I am female. This woman is stretching her own "personal boundaries" to grab either $ or position of power for these unceasing attacks.

No it means most of us have a sense of perspective.

Flores..

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Her Twitter account

https://twitter.com/LucyFlores

links to her business's Twitter account

https://twitter.com/luzcollective

which links to her shop:

https://luzcollective.com/shop/


I wonder how many sympathy sales she's getting?

Disclosure on Flores'

So easy to predict. So hard to wipe her off legitimate news for some reason.

Time to go away.

a permanent blotch on advancing the genuine #MeToo movement. The #MeToo movement is extremely important. Flores? Not so much.

To Ms.Flores: a poorly disguised political agenda “pfffft.”

That must be embarrassing.

candidate.

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I support Biden more NOW than I did before this disgusting smear campaign began.

If he were a repuke. We need to get past this and move on. He apologized, he's sincere. Lets start talking about the issues and get this country moving in the correct direction. These distractions are only making the repubs embolden...

honorable man.

But I have been pretty critical of the incidents when republicans have deflected with actions and rhetoric that painted the man as a victim when a woman made it known that her personal space was invaded or her agency compromised.