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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:16 PM Feb 2020

Joy Reid just mentioned the "sense of mourning" among most Democrats she knows,

over Sanders doing as well as he has. That they don't want the change in the party.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Joy Reid just mentioned the "sense of mourning" among most Democrats she knows, (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP
Sense of impending doom is probably more accurate. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1
Exactly sense of impending doom. It is over. nt helpisontheway Feb 2020 #3
I'm not conceding that but I'm very worried. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #7
I need to fold socks. BBS rzemanfl Feb 2020 #15
It's a bit like watching a train start to go off a cliff, with people in the first cars cheering highplainsdem Feb 2020 #10
Or lemmings. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #11
If Sanders is our nominee, and we win the GE, no problem. However, if we lose by a huge margin, still_one Feb 2020 #20
And if Biden is our nominee and we lose badly OliverQ Feb 2020 #23
It is highly unlikely that Biden will be the nominee, or any of the so-called moderate still_one Feb 2020 #26
Are you kidding me? DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #29
Believe me i am well aware of Bernie's past and present, but Bloomberg has significantly still_one Feb 2020 #34
Well, Bernie does the best with pretty much every demographic. OliverQ Feb 2020 #35
I believe Sanders will be the nominee, and we will see if that assessment holds. I will just say still_one Feb 2020 #36
I'd rather see.... VarryOn Feb 2020 #14
When you promise free of course people want that. FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #18
You're right... VarryOn Feb 2020 #21
I think Democrats are willing to accept a change Renew Deal Feb 2020 #2
We just had a big big change election in 2016. FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #19
This is too much, too quick bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #4
I hope so. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
It's Not "Game Over"! Cha Feb 2020 #5
Is it even the bottom of the first inning? I don't think so. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #9
Ah.. a baseball analogy! no, I Cha Feb 2020 #12
Have to be. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #32
change? evertonfc Feb 2020 #8
The longer the Amy, Joe, Pete, and Bloomberg stay in the race taking votes away from each other still_one Feb 2020 #13
Maybe not. Still 1991 needed to win. brush Feb 2020 #17
I know, but i am not going to be under any false hope either. Time is running out still_one Feb 2020 #22
I hope she soothes their feelings, one should look out for their buds. Maybe flowers? Autumn Feb 2020 #16
Ah, the old "nobody I know voted for him" melman Feb 2020 #24
Well she should've thought of that when she was running her dumbass mouth and dissing Biden cause underthematrix Feb 2020 #25
Don't want radical change in the party liberal N proud Feb 2020 #27
2 of the last 3 states have been caucuses which BS engineered democratisphere Feb 2020 #28
And New Hampshire was a "semi-open" (or semi-closed) primary, open to republicans.... George II Feb 2020 #33
I'm sure most of the Democrats she knows are upset. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #30
it's not that we don't want change in the party lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #31
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
1. Sense of impending doom is probably more accurate.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:17 PM
Feb 2020

This is not a good thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
3. Exactly sense of impending doom. It is over. nt
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:18 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
7. I'm not conceding that but I'm very worried.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,570 posts)
15. I need to fold socks. BBS
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:31 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
10. It's a bit like watching a train start to go off a cliff, with people in the first cars cheering
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Feb 2020

and waving and oblivious to where they're headed, and how many they'll take down with them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
20. If Sanders is our nominee, and we win the GE, no problem. However, if we lose by a huge margin,
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:42 PM
Feb 2020

then we only have ourselves to blame for choosing such a weak candidate, and we can kiss the SC, and all progress made by the establishment Democrats from women's rights, workers rights, Civil Rights, the environment, etc etc etc which will take a long long time to restore

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
23. And if Biden is our nominee and we lose badly
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:02 PM
Feb 2020

then what?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
26. It is highly unlikely that Biden will be the nominee, or any of the so-called moderate
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:31 PM
Feb 2020

block for that matter. Bloomberg has insured that won't happen, and even more unlikely he will be the nominee.

I am under no false illusions, barring any extraordinary event, Bernie will be our nominee

Bernie will get my vote in the GE without hesitation. If for nothing else the SC is at stake

The claim has been made since President Obama that the party is too moderate, by Bernie and his supporters, and the only way to win elections is to nominate a candidate such as Bernie. I do not agree with that assessment, and believe for varios reasons, which I am not going to go into, that he is the weakest candidate out of all the candidates.

We will know in 7 months if that is the case. I hope i am wrong



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
29. Are you kidding me?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:37 PM
Feb 2020

Joe Biden has every chance in the world to win this, especially after the fact the BS waited a MONTH to let anyone know that the Russians were supporting him.

You do understand that, right?: Russians, Trump, etc, would love for BS to win. It won't happen since the plot by the Russians and Trump has been exposed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
34. Believe me i am well aware of Bernie's past and present, but Bloomberg has significantly
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:58 PM
Feb 2020

cut into Joe's lead. Joe does not have every chance in the world to win the nomination, and that is primarily due to Bloomberg. In my view Bloomberg is essentially a spoiler, and what would have been a good outcome for Joe on Super Tuesday, is only going to be fair because of Bloomberg cutting into his support

Another billionare, Steyer, is also a spoiler, to a lesser degree, but he is also hurting Joe in South Carolina. While i think Biden will win South Carolina, unfortunately it wont be as much as the polls suggested earlier

It pains me to say this, but unless the poll numbers are wrong because of Bloombergs entrance into the primaries is going to make it very hard for Joe to get the nomination

In my view Bloomberg's entrance into the race has not only made it more likely that Bernie will be the nominee, and because of that in my opinion trump will get another four years

Boy do i hope i am wrong



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
35. Well, Bernie does the best with pretty much every demographic.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
Feb 2020

That would seem to indicate he's not the weakest candidate.

Buttigieg has 4% minority support. No Dem can win with that number.

Biden has never won a state primary race in the 3 times he's ran for President. That doesn't exude electability.

Most union voters endorsed Bernie and he by far got the most union votes today. How is any other candidate going to claim they're the pro-worker candidate?

Bernie won the Hispanic vote by far. How are other candidates going to win states like Arizona or Nevada if they can't win the Hispanic vote?

Millions of new young voters are now registering to be able to vote. Bernie by far dominates the youth vote and it's the largest voting block in 2018. How is any other candidate going to bring out the typically apathetic youth voter?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
36. I believe Sanders will be the nominee, and we will see if that assessment holds. I will just say
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:09 AM
Feb 2020

that i disagree with your assessment, and if Sanders is the nominee, which i think he will be, we will know soon enough if your analysis is correct

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
14. I'd rather see....
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:31 PM
Feb 2020

An ass whippin' coming than being surprised by one like I did in 2016. I was sick for days!

I just don't see Sanders' politics appealing to voters. He's relatively untested, and the mean, no-holds-bar Donald Trump will eat him alive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
18. When you promise free of course people want that.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:38 PM
Feb 2020

Realistic not so much.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
21. You're right...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020

It's amazing voters aren't skeptical. When a politician promises something so good, I automatically call "bullshit!". I suppose I'm a cynic!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,877 posts)
2. I think Democrats are willing to accept a change
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:17 PM
Feb 2020

But Sanders is self-immolation. That's certainly change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
19. We just had a big big change election in 2016.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:39 PM
Feb 2020

How's that working for America.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,313 posts)
4. This is too much, too quick
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:19 PM
Feb 2020

There will be blowback from voters in subsequent states who consider what it going down

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,733 posts)
5. It's Not "Game Over"!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,570 posts)
9. Is it even the bottom of the first inning? I don't think so. n/t
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:24 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,733 posts)
12. Ah.. a baseball analogy! no, I
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:27 PM
Feb 2020

don't think it is,either. Forever hopeful!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,570 posts)
32. Have to be. n/t
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
8. change?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:24 PM
Feb 2020

Moderates have been winning in red states in 18 and 19. Lol..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
13. The longer the Amy, Joe, Pete, and Bloomberg stay in the race taking votes away from each other
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:28 PM
Feb 2020

the more likely Bernie will be the nominee without any competition

It is too bad they cannot get together and decide to back one of the candidates in the Amy, Pete, Biden, Bloomberg block, and at least give those who represent the more moderate wing a voice, but that is unlikely, and Sanders most likely will be the nominee

Waiting to do this after Super Tuesday is too late. In fact with early voting it may be too late now



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,894 posts)
17. Maybe not. Still 1991 needed to win.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:36 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
22. I know, but i am not going to be under any false hope either. Time is running out
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:00 PM
Feb 2020

because more states are now part of Super Tuesday

The reason i think the primaries are essentially over is because of Bloomberg, who I view as a spoiler, and has fragmented the moderate vote beyond recovery in time for the convention



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
16. I hope she soothes their feelings, one should look out for their buds. Maybe flowers?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
24. Ah, the old "nobody I know voted for him"
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
25. Well she should've thought of that when she was running her dumbass mouth and dissing Biden cause
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:29 PM
Feb 2020

she was all in for Harris.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
27. Don't want radical change in the party
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:32 PM
Feb 2020

Radical left is as bad as radical right

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
28. 2 of the last 3 states have been caucuses which BS engineered
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:36 PM
Feb 2020

ways to manipulate even back in 2016. Now the tables are turned and Joe Biden will take charge and move on to be our rightful most competent, experienced candidate to beat the lying crap out of CONald drumpf.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. And New Hampshire was a "semi-open" (or semi-closed) primary, open to republicans....
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:40 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders has demonstrated an inability to win closed primaries, of which there are many coming up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)
30. I'm sure most of the Democrats she knows are upset.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:38 PM
Feb 2020

Her colleagues at MSNBC certainly seemed to be losing it over the results. Chris Matthews, Brian Williams and multiple correspondents did indeed seem to be in mourning if not outright panic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lapfog_1

(29,227 posts)
31. it's not that we don't want change in the party
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:39 PM
Feb 2020

It's that the PARTY won a huge victory in 2018...

And now we want to go forth with the message that "hey folks, what we said we wanted in 2018... never mind that, we got a NEW message for you and you all are going to LOVE it so vote for Bernie and AOC in 2020."

And a lot of us don't think that is going to play well in the swing states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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