Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumChris Mathews compares Bernie sanders winning to the Nazis taking France.
Chris Mathews has been a joke for awhile now but this is low
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-matthews-bernie-sanders_n_5e51ad62c5b629695f5b64d7
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)He likes drama, but statements like that make him look like an idiot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Big Blue Marble
(5,151 posts)There is only danger.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
enough
(13,262 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tarc
(10,476 posts)I'd love to see Katy Tur there.
Thee's also the wee problem of making Nazi allusions when speaking abut a Jewish individual. Matthews is exposing some deep-seated antisemitism here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ms liberty
(8,600 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NoDakLinda
(45 posts)They're not acting!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)So his reaction is filtered through his life experience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)Like Trump-nasty.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Usually about my party. Take his latest tweet for example.
But his surrogates are the worst.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Voltaire2
(13,194 posts)So we will have to cut those 8 years out of his full Democrat bio.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)🤔
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)He does this every primary. He is pretty obvious with his blatant bias and it has the feel that his employer supports the candidate that he pushes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandiFan1290
(6,245 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Magoo48
(4,720 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Big Blue Marble
(5,151 posts)He has been around long enough to have prospective. If we lose the House, Senate, and the Presidency.
It will be as bad as the Nazi overrunning Europe. We are done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)Many pundits are seeing parallels to World War II when fascism last reared its ugly head
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Big Blue Marble
(5,151 posts)He is old enough to have learned about the rise of German racism. We.should pay attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheSocialDem
(191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)not the policies of Bernie
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Big Blue Marble
(5,151 posts)And Sanders is not the one to stop it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)right. Economic grievance does not eliminate racism or misogyny or homophobia.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)than the majority of voters of color in the primary so far, who have voted for Sanders?
I disagree with that assessment.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)recognizes this.
Sanders is intent on burning down whatever remains of the our government that Trump hasn't taken a wrecking ball to. Collateral damage is of no concern to either of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)Why defend Matthews' false equivalency, while continuing to talk over voters of color who support Sanders?
There's nothing wrong with supporting other candidates for the nomination. I do too. But the facile comparisons and dismissing the preferences of the electorate help no one.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
question everything
(47,538 posts)To set the curse fo generations.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)His relevance has left. MSNBC just needs to catch up to that fact.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NoDakLinda
(45 posts)
.you better start swimmin' or you'll sink like a stone
for the times they are a-changin.
.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)Infotainment actor.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)But in this one nothing will happen. Unfortunately.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)and Democrats are conceding him another term by nominating Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I'm so sick of reading arguments that Sanders can't win. They always come down to him being too extreme. Clinton was about as moderate and "safe" as you can get and she lost. I'll take my chances on a candidate who actually stands for working people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,873 posts)For as conciliatory as she was towards Sanders in 2016 -- even though she didn't need to be, she dominated him in a way that Sanders will not come close to dominating anyone in 2020 -- she still got shiv'd by his supporters.
Now, fast forward to 2018 and it was the actual moderates that won back the House for us.
And Hillary did and does stand for working people -- fuck Sanders disciples for leading anyone to believe otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
anamnua
(1,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Tweety is the least of your problems moving forward.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Link to tweet
Habitually wrong, should-be-retired pundits are losing their fucking minds. Maybe they'll finally go away.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)He's an idiot.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)His life probably wasn't affected much, either way.
President Sanders, however, might significantly raise his taxes. Poor guy.
I feel the same way about James Carville, married to a Republican strategist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,224 posts)Matthews needs to get control over his emotions.
I can understand that he is worried about Sanders becoming the nominee, but that was completely out of line. Nothing should ever be compared to the Nazi occupation of Europe. Analogies like that are an affront to the victims of WWII.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)with groups that support him, they represent people that the Democrats failed to connect with, and they failed to do so at their own expense. And many of those people do not look like Chris Mathews.
As I see it, the Democratic party has been creeping away from its original base of support for decades and Bernie is capitalizing on that oversight.
Sometimes I think that the concept of the two party system is harder for Democrats to pull off than it is for Republicans. It's like we have been following our own concept of trickle-down, which fails to reach the people at the lower pay base, and young people who see the gauntlet they have to run to get to the top and have seen opportunities close and problems, like environment and deficits, grow.
God, though, if Bernie wins, please let him be the real thing. In other words, if I discover he turns out to be a puppet for Russia my head will explode.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,021 posts)numbers always show that he doesn't.
Always.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,021 posts)In 2018 the youth vote did turn out, but Bernie-backed candidates and Our Revolution candidates got clobbered. Almost none of them won. Moderates did great. So that one time the youth came out, they didn't come for him.
I understand he tells you over and over that he's doing this, but he isn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:05 AM - Edit history (1)
Nevada was the first diverse state, so it's the results coming from that state that is news of the day.
Watch MSNBC. It's one of the few networks that goes out of its way to make sure there is a diverse canvas of guest speakers. And this morning, they are the ones who are interpreting the results.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,021 posts)The 2018 election was pretty diverse.
Youth does not come out for Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)This Bernie bashing has now officially crossed the threshold into INSANITY.
When someone draws the ridiculous and offensive comparison of a Jew winning a democratic election to a brutal Nazi conquest and occupation then you know that person is either an imbecile in the extreme or a virulent antisemite. I wonder which Chris Matthews is? Both, perhaps? The two usually walk hand-in-hand
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radius777
(3,635 posts)He's not referring to Bernie per se - but the idea that the modern Dem party of JFK, Bill Clinton and Obama could nominate a socialist independent who is being actively supported by Russia for the purpose of losing to a president who was installed by Russia.
Basically, CM speaks for the majority of regular Democrats who support American capitalism w/safety nets (not socialism) and are pro-trade and internationalism (not isolationist).
The left loves to laud FDR, but he and Truman set down our very internationalist (and sometimes interventionist) foreign policy after learning the lessons of WWII of having had our heads in the sand. Both FDR and Truman also hated socialism and communism, and saw big government spending more in keynesian terms than marxist ones.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Nothing about the Holocaust, nothing about fascists, people are going way overboard
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Yes, I know many don't believe that, but we do.
And if you know history, you know Godwins Law went out thw window when trump was elected. Trump REALLY IS very like hitler in the way he is proceding. Even the steps he is taking.
First identify a group to hate and rally around that hate. "Mexicans are all rapists and murderers, immigrants are coming to infest your town with gangs."
Then, lock up members of that group.
Take over a major information hub: he now dictates what Fox airs.
One by one violate any laws that limit your power in small ways. When that passes, violate that law in a larger way. Neutralize all blocks to your power this way.
Kneecap the press. Check.
Take over the courts. Happening right now.
Declare marshal law after a manufactured disaster and you're done.
So you all may ridicule Chris, but I'm not going to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Step by step! He's doing the same things!
And if BS wins, Filthy Donnie will be reelected and free to finish the job.
I am not finding Tweety crazy at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)If the worst comes to pass... it will be cold comfort for me to say "I Told You So" so I'll probably just have to get it tattooed to my forehead instead of continually repeating myself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(4,981 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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