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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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msongs

(67,453 posts)
1. dont let the our revolution crowd browbeat you into submission.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,733 posts)
2. Thankfully we don't have a nominee yet.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brer cat

(24,616 posts)
3. Wishful thinking.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

Three small states does not equal a primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
8. And two of them were
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

caucuses! Iowa was a disaster and I still don't know the total count from Nevada. I hate caucuses because a vast majority of voters don't get out and vote like they could in a primary.

We need to stop the caucuses and go with primaries so we can actually get the majority voters to pick the person they want instead of letting a handful of voters decide who should win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

33taw

(2,448 posts)
11. This is a very valid point. Caucuses are atrocious. They exclude many elderly, working adults,
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:24 PM
Feb 2020

parents with children and disabled voters. It is basically a form of voter suppression. Unfortunately, Iowa will not change soon. Their governor will not authorize paying for a primary because the chaos plays into republicans hand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
4. BLoomberg's memo explains it well. Has to do with so many candidates still in, and splitting votes
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:38 PM
Feb 2020

leads to no delegates.

Mike Bloomberg's campaign is sounding the alarm that Bernie Sanders will soon amass an unsurmountable delegate lead if the Democratic field stays split — and took the extraordinary step of suggesting laggards should drop out.

What they're saying: Kevin Sheekey, Bloomberg's top strategist, said: "The fact is if the state of this race remains status quo — with Biden, Pete and Amy in the race on Super Tuesday — Bernie is likely to open up a delegate lead that seems nearly impossible to overcome."

"I don’t think many people understand the dire circumstances here."
Why it matters: Based on every national poll, plus steady access to money, Sanders is the indisputable — if underappreciated — frontrunner.

The Bloomberg campaign got high-profile validation of its theory:

David Plouffe, Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, tweeted in response to Nate Silver's delegate projections through Super Tuesday — which show Sanders with 41%, followed by Bloomberg and Joe Biden with 18% each.
"If this happens, Sanders would have a pledged delegate lead he’ll never relinquish."


https://www.axios.com/bernie-sanders-mike-bloomberg-delegate-race-bee5b692-a0ca-449a-a714-4c212ad15010.html
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,148 posts)
5. He may keep the lead but will he go over the top?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:40 PM
Feb 2020

I'm betting no.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
6. We will need to see..anything can happen before, or at, Milwaukee.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
7. I haven't seen many, if any, claim the race is over. But what's clear is that most don't have a path
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020

As I kept saying to Sanders supporters in 2016, one simply can't win the Democratic Party nomination if one is getting crushed among persons of color (4 years later and Sanders has an incredibly diverse base of support). Like I said yesterday as soon as the Nevada entrance poll data appeared (acknowledging that entrance and exit poll data is not entirely trustworthy), this is now a Sanders vs. Biden race.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar have no path. Warren doesn't either, but she may have an incentive to stay in if she thinks there will be a brokered convention.

There are reasons why the 538 forecast looks the way it does: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
9. Yes we must keep things in perspective. Is he the current front runner yes
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:50 PM
Feb 2020

But a long way to being the nominee don't let the media take you there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,234 posts)
10. Bill Clinton lost the first three in '92
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:54 PM
Feb 2020

We all know the rest of the story.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. The story behind that exception to the rule isn't quite so simple.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:09 PM
Feb 2020

Iowa was essentially nullified by Harkin being in the race. And it was Clinton's very strong 2nd place finish in New Hampshire, and the resulting comeback kid narrative, that propelled him forward. No candidate was doing very well in the early going. The biggest threat Clinton ever faced was Jerry Brown, and that threat was short-lived.

Clinton took the biggest prize (Georgia) on Super Tuesday and was 2nd in Maryland. After that, he dominated.

But, yes, Clinton is the lone candidate - over the last 40 years - from either party who has won the nomination without winning either IA or NH. South Carolina and Super Tuesday upcoming will tell us if that might happen for just the 2nd time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
12. Yep, three states
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:34 PM
Feb 2020

So we should all pack it up and go home now. Obviously all the other 47 states will be pretty much the same!

Or maybe we can just hang in there and give the rest of the country a chance to vote before anyone declares victory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SKKY

(11,823 posts)
13. We're headed for a brokered convention...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:38 PM
Feb 2020

...and that is going to be so ugly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
14. DU Democrats seem to be easily stampeded this year. nt
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
15. The 24 hour newscycles do not emanate calm wisdom
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lindalou65

(253 posts)
17. Declaring a nominee
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:14 PM
Feb 2020

Yes, you are right William769. It is too early to declare a nominee with results from only 3 states. Let's remain calm and see what happens ---Super Tuesday is around the corner and we shall see what transpires.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
18. We have had only three states so far.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:19 PM
Feb 2020

And some people are acting like the current front runner is irrelevant, I would say there are plenty of people missing something.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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