Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI Don't Like Bernie Sanders, and You Can Die Mad About it
I think that Senator Bernie Sanders is a horrible candidate, and I have every right to hold that opinion and speak that opinion. But at times, it doesnt appear that way... (because) Lordy, dont you dare post that you dont like Senator Benard Sanders, because his fans will clutch their pearls and try to come for you. And we all know a few.
I am not sure why the most ardent of his supporters have little to zero respect for boundaries. Perhaps its because their candidate doesnt either. If you watch Senator Sanders, he is always in someones space, especially women, waving his hand or wagging his fingers.
Because of this, its difficult to have constructive discussions about Sen. Sanders. Many People have Sanders on the bottom of their primary lists and prefer to keep quiet about it rather than deal with the antics of his fans. Which includes but is not limited to spamming a social media post, sharing screenshots of conversations outside of personal social media spaces to invite harassment, and doxing. Often they wont or cant refute a statement so they will use laugh reacts only or respond with memes.
There are plenty of Sanders stans that have scorn for Democrats, which of course, is their prerogative. But, they want those very same Democrats to embrace them and Senator Sanders, who also shares the same contempt for the party. During a recent rally in Seattle, Washington, Sanders called out Trump and the GOP to cheers, but the cheers were louder when he called out the Democratic Establishment.
https://medium.com/@fatnessevermean/i-dont-like-bernie-sanders-and-you-can-die-mad-about-it-859a0c859fe2
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)for the nominee in the GE, thats all that matters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... we can all vote 100% but unless those swing state numbers goes up for Sanders we're going to have a long haul.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)But Sanders can win if we all GOTV. I agree, Biden will have an easier road.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... those polls or thought he'd overcome them.
Sanders swing state polling is lack luster at best.
Swing states are what matters since there hasn't been a democratically elected republican president in over 20 years
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
7. I'm not saying it's going to be easy.
But Sanders can win if we all GOTV. .
Hillary could have as well. They sat it out or voted Stein. Three of them have top positions on the BS campaign. They voted anti Dem. End of discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)I just want Dems to get behind whoever gets the nomination so we can stop Trump from turning us into a fascist dictatorship. Ill work for any candidate, even Bloomberg, who I have serious problems with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Sadly others won't.
If I remember correctly, the 9th court. Trump just made it pure red.
We have lost the courts and we will have lost our Democracy as the Bros cheer on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)But close. Like 2 more appointments close. It is justice Ginsburg's position that is the most important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)and I am not a religious person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)I just wish President Obama already filled her seat, and she retired in style. This is a nail bitter now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)We can say it until blue in the face, but what we ought to be doing is voting for a
candidate in the primary with the widest appeal across the political spectrum and coalition building ability.
Tell it to Floridians.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)We wont win Florida with Sanders at the top of the ticket. But I still think we can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)This. ^^^^^ We need to do this. ^^^^^
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and that it didn't matter who we vote for as long as we vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... why; Sanders doesn't have any appeal outside of grievance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)[Even if trump blows up so bad, any Dem nominee would go to the WH, still - no BS downticket].
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... who are mad at the system and wants someone who's mad at it too.
Maybe Biden should take on the gun lobby ... they're part of the system ... that's what make me think Sanders is full of shit.
If he was mad at the system the gun lobby and their homies would be top on his list of people to change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
reACTIONary
(5,771 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FBaggins
(26,758 posts)He is always in someone elses space, especially women
And your sig line says that youre backing Biden?
Cognitive Dissonance much?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Let's do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FBaggins
(26,758 posts)And I definitely prefer Biden to Sanders.
I just think its hilariously politically tone-deaf for a Biden supporter to even bring up some other candidates failure to respect the personal space of women. Particularly just days before his last-gasp opportunity to get back into the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Kick Trump's ass.
Bernie, Amy, Joe, Elizabeth, Mike, Pete, you name it. Ok Tom too!
Trump is everything bad about America in one person.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Apollo Zeus
(251 posts)>>Sanders leads the pack in Michigan with 25%, followed by Biden at 16%, former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg and Warren tied at 13%, and Buttigieg at 11%.
Sanders has an even bigger margin in Wisconsin, where he leads with 30%, followed by an effective four-way tie for second place: Biden and Bloomberg are at 13%, Buttigieg and Warren at 12%.
Sanders also leads in Pennsylvania, although by a smaller margin. He has 25% support in the poll, followed by Biden (who was born in the state) at 20%, Bloomberg at 19% and Buttigieg at 12%.<<
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/24/joe-biden-plummets-in-sc-polls-bernie-sanders-rises-in-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylvania/
Also, Sanders outperforms polls by 3 to 5% while Biden polled as "front runner" before losing the first 3 states.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,659 posts)do you so scorn us that you are openly wishing for our deaths?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)passes, wont be for years. What is the plan until then?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,659 posts)what is his plan and why didn't he use it when he was in office?
and how in the world would you know what the best healthcare is about?
I wrote the Obama/biden admin many times begging them to look at the cracks the aca left for people,they blamed it on losing the house, well they lost the house because they didn't deliver what was promised
biden's time has come and gone
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)a public option...of course the votes were not there...these folks would rather have had nothing...I wonder how many would be dead had they gotten their way. The left Greens let us down in 2014 also and we lost a Senate seat as a result...and now they are about to let us down again with a nominee who will surely lose a general...(Left /Green Stein (Yuck) voters did in 16 as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
33taw
(2,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,659 posts)so why would I think this time he will deliver?
I feel like Charlie brown and the football
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
33taw
(2,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,830 posts)Aside from the obvious, that the Dems didn't hold enough branches of government to put through an ACA with more teeth in it, Biden was not at the top (reminds me of people - not saying they are here, people I know in other arenas) who call the Obama State Department the "Clinton State Department", never mind that Kerry was SoS for four of those 8 years, it's always the "Clinton State Department" anyway).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)What divisive distain you have for others on this forum.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mariana
(14,860 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zak247
(251 posts)And he just lost Florida!
Donald Trump wins Florida if Bernie is our nominee, said state Rep. Javier Fernandez, a Democratic candidate in a majority-Hispanic state Senate district.
If Bernie Sanders is atop the ticket, its going to make it tougher for all of us to win in Florida, said Fernandez, who has endorsed Sanderss rival, Joe Biden. No one really sees Sanders winning Florida and I dont think his campaign does either.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/florida-dems-uproar-sanders-cuba-comments-117213
This is why Bernie is going to lose folks, I'm sorry to tell you. I hope I'm wrong.
But he just lost Florida talking about Castro on 60 minutes last night.
He shouldn't even be talking about that. FORGET CASTRO!
Does he want to win?
The down-ballot ticket may get annihilated with Bernie on the ticket.
ALL Trump has to do to win is take Pennsylvania and FLORIDA! And he wins by a few EC votes. Check it out, look it up and see for yourself. Trump doesn't even need Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan to win!!!!
You folks are going to be very very sorry with Bernie, I am sorry to say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Why is Bernie expected to carry it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Since when are we worried about losing the vote of the people who elect Marco Rubio?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)If he wins the nomination. I hope you and the rest of his detractors will too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)a Bernie in the GE might present, which bears discussion. We all can vote blue til blue in the face.
What we do have control over is picking a candidate who is not losing whole states before the primary has barely started.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)we can only do what we can do, and that very well may not be enough. Believe me, I'm as worried as anyone else on that score.
Nevertheless, if he gets the nomination, we had better try as hard as we can to get him elected. It's better to try and fail than it is to not even bother trying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... matter not what we want here on DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)I've voted for plenty of people i don't like
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Ohio...like both of them at the time. I still like Hillary...Sanders no. And I think he loses to Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Boomer
(4,168 posts)Apparently my candidate isn't winning. Them's the breaks. I don't have to like Sanders to vote for him. Which I will if he's the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)moderates who needed to drop out so we could stop Sanders...hope Bloomberg can take him or Biden...I want to beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)The others don't have that. It's hard for working class folk who desperately need decent healthcare to get excited over candidates who cater to their billionaire donors and the 1% at the expense of the rest of us.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,618 posts)the last general election. All the candidates in 2020 are for decent healthcare. What are you talking about?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I think it is a thing among the Professional Managerial Class and people in those rich neighborhoods where I was allowed in to fix slate and copper roofs. I don't deny such people exist in real life, just not among the general population of regular working class people similar to those I run into every day, or the neighbors I talk to sometimes.
Among my casual peers and the neighbors I have come to know, he is viewed favorably as a rare politician that, agree with him or not, he is at least honest and earnest about what he talks up. This may simply be an "isolated bubble" view of what is seen in my lower working class poor neighborhood but is no less valid than what is viewed from within a 3 Million/year coffee clatch pundit bubble. I would even suggest there are a great many more people with a world view and worries more in common with the denizens of my modest neighborhood that those that live in the world of a millionaire talking head.
Even canvassing in the blue collar middle class suburban neighborhoods (closer to the city than the 7 and 8 figure gated places by the lake) where I encounter some conservative ideology, people I've pitched to don't dislike Bernie, I've never had to start by defending anything. No one I've talked to so far find him unlikable, in fact more than a few times I have heard the phrase "at least he's not full of shit" right before going over one of his popular policies.
Truth is, everything I encounter offline leads me to believe he is quite popular, no matter how much the online concern trolls tell me, like Hillary, "Nobody likes him".
Long time no see Autumn (hoping you remember me)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
xmas74
(29,676 posts)And most of the actual registered voters bash Sanders regularly. He's a joke to them. They don't care much for my candidate either.
Who do they like? Biden. Bloomberg. Some like Buttigieg. A few really liked Booker. Sanders? Nope. He will never win them over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I noticed the dynamic of big land counties with fewer people choosing Bootigieg or Steyer bucking the trend in Nevada. There may be something to look at regarding the country dynamic, specifically in whiter, older areas. I have lived in the city (medium sized) my whole life and did about half my work in the suburbs, never did get to know very many rural folks and have no idea what they think. I know they appear to like right wing radio or church radio judging by what's on the air driving through the country between my city to another.
I think I might try to phone bank in a way to target such people, if they are working class, a working people's type agenda should appeal to them if one can get past the corporate favoring media programming most people are subjected to. I think if another decent regular working class person has an honest conversation one on one with them, they'd find they have more in common with the coalition than they might think.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)It'll certainly matter to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LAS14
(13,783 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)and the guy is not even a Democrat
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
33taw
(2,447 posts)less than 50%. So, ready the crown.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Gores (Nader) loss...brought us United, two wars,shitty tax cuts...Kerry who was beat up in the primary by Moore ET AL lost and we got more war, Katrina deaths, climate damage and an economic debacle...then we know that Sanders wanted to primary Obama in 12, I can only imagine what horror that would have dealt us...as Romney intended to get rid of the ACA on day one...and then came 16 where Stein campaigned to help Trump win the EC in blue wall states...targeted them and disappointed Sanders supporters trashed Hillary and many voted for Stein, stayed home or even voted for Trump...and many claimed to be progressives... Now we have Sanders who hires Stein voters for his campaign and rails against Democrats and the party so I say fuck you to those who didn't support Hillary and all the others who helped the Democrats lose since 2000...with friends like that who needs enemies. You are fortunate that most of us are disciplined voters who always vote blue because the left /greens sure as hell don't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Squinch
(51,006 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)And Clinton won the popular vote in a year when 1 out of ten Bernie supporters didn't vote for her.
And any Bernie supporter believes that except when it's inconvenient to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)"likes" Bernie Sanders. We're not voting for an American Idol contestant. EVERYONE needs to get over these ridiculous "feelings" and remember we're running against Donald Fucking Trump, who will go after Social Security and Medicare with a vengeance should he get a second term. Ignore the fucking supporters, focus on the issues, and vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,193 posts)why does this have to be explained over and over?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
David__77
(23,503 posts)I think it's interesting that "space" is a personal consideration, as are "boundaries." Viewpoints on these things can widely vary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)all Democratic candidates or at least most of them. Unfortunately for the party, Bernie only likes un-established Democrats. That would be almost no Democrats who have won elections. Why would he work for them or they for him? It doesn't make sense and it makes less sense with every nasty thing Bernie says about the "Democratic establishment."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)That helps everybody.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,006 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)by getting elected and helping the other Democrats win. Bernie has accomplished almost nothing in his thirty some year career in government. He sure hasn't worked for many Democrats, mostly he has supported the few who look to him for guidance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AleksS
(1,665 posts)How though? How will he help everyone with their needs without being able to get ANYTHING passed?
If he can't/won't work with "Establishment" Democrats, and the GOP majorities in the House and Senate sure as heck won't work with him, how will he help people with their needs?
I mean, he CAN wag his finger and make angry speeches, I guess, but I don't know who that actually helps in the absence of any actual enacted policies?
What has he accomplished to help people so far in his career? And how/why should we expect that record to change?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wundermaus
(1,673 posts)however, instead I (and the majority of Democrats) will sleep like a baby.
By the way, your extremely polarizing opinions of Senator Sanders reveal the origins of much of what you allege.
Needless to say, there is plenty of crap slinging from all directions toward Bernie.
Sadly, your OP sound a lot like a certain pResident whom we all loath and want removed from office.
Maybe it's time to stop the circle jerking and start focusing on our (yours and mine) common objective - Throwing the Traitor out on his ass. I for one, extend my hand to you in friendship and solidarity. We have a very big fish to fry. Let's get on with it, shall we?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Theyd be nuts to pass it up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wundermaus
(1,673 posts)Try a little sincerity, you'd be amazed what you can do with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Pro tip: Try a less confrontational approach when extending the hand of friendship.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Here is another, when you are the new kid on the block try not to lecture others. Thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wundermaus
(1,673 posts)Been involved in Political discussion forums (common Ground Common Sense) since the Presidential coup of 2000.
We can all learn something from each other, what do you wish to contribute besides personal attacks?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wundermaus
(1,673 posts)I will try to be less confrontational in future posts - particularly with regards to you, HP - by the way welcome to DU.
Just like texting, a lot of inflection and nuance is missing in this form of communication leading to misunderstandings.
If we approach each other with courtesy and respect, it would go a long way toward common ground.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)and that Trump tries to feed the resentment of the Sanders people that the rest of us Democrats don't fall in line behind him. They seem to be succeeding.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Who is trying to buy the presidency. You can be mad about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
samnsara
(17,635 posts)..vote for him...which is more than he will do for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Capt. America
(2,478 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
5X
(3,972 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MojoWrkn
(139 posts)He's always rumpled, irascible, and grumpy sounding! He could not define finesse which I think is necessary for diplomacy. I'm not even gonna mention his followers ("cult" !
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Who cares?
But you do have to vote for him as President if he wins the Democratic primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AverageJoe
(2,292 posts)I am sad, though, that you think Bernies supporters are jerks, while I feel like every time I mention him in a positive light on DU I get my head handed to me, usually by a whole gang of folks.
Bad behavior is rampant here, and no one has a monopoly on it.
I dont want to be your enemy. I didnt notice who you support, but if they win the nomination, I will be all in for them. I promise.
We are all Democratsyes, even us Bernie supportersand I would so love it if we could get along, even as we support different candidates.
Ive offered this same message a lot in the past couple of weeks and its amazing how often it is met with disdain or open hostility. Still, I am being as genuine and sincere as I can be.
Be angry at individuals who wrong you, but please dont tar us all with the same brush. There is one particular candidate that I wont name whose supporters are especially ardent in attacking at the first mention of anything positive about Sanders. I know all supporters of that candidate are not bad people, though there are clearly some who think its okay to be awful, just because we disagree on who would be the best nominee.
I suspect someone will answer this with an admonishment along the lines of get your own house in order or dont tell me what to do! Thats fine. Thats the response I usually get.
But I can only speak for myself. I dont control anyone but me.
Lets not let the jerksand all candidates have jerks who support them hereconvince us to rip one another to shreds.
Okay. Im done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)among Republicans and moderate independents. I'm looking past the primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Stellar
(5,644 posts)I'm sure there are others that feel the way you do.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yaesu
(8,020 posts)protection from millions just before the last recession. He pushed for & voter for the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill. I'm just not sure he has we the peoples best interests in mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
I am no fan of Biden but do not EVEN compare him to Bernie Sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)be President and I think he'll do better against trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vdizzle
(383 posts)I am not sure why the most ardent of his supporters have little to zero respect for boundaries.
Not sure why?! We are sick of it. We are sick of playing catch up. We are sick of being used. We are sick of being used as pawns. We resent that we are behind every Western European country in EVERY social safety aspect. We are tired of the greed.
Its time to break those boundaries. Its time to stand up. Its time for a real progressive. Its time to yell fuck you from the mountain tops to the greedy establishment.
Thats why. Understand now?!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,193 posts)we would still have.......BS
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dchill
(38,532 posts)Not you alone, anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)just read all the venom in these comments. Holy MF crap.............
My experience is that when I try to have a discussion about Bernie with a true believer Bernie lover,
it is no different than trying to have a discussion with a TrumpHumper..................
I gave up on Trump's crowd years ago, and I have recently given up with Bernie's crowd.
Sorry, just an honest appraisal.
We can do without all the vile back and forth crap between Dem candidates and all their followers.
We should have decided this a month ago, and all get behind and vote for whom ever wins the Primary.
With all this nastiness we are only doing the Republican's job and Putin's job for them.....
I seriously believe, with all that is going on, that who ever we have as a candidate, it will not make any difference in the outcome of the election. The election will be rigged, and if perchance some Dem wins, The Republicans/Trump/Senate Republicans/Republican Supreme Court/Republican BARR-DOJ will immediately declare the election invalid.
I really, really, really, really don't want to see what happens across this nation on Nov 4th...............
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)i wouldn't wish that fate upon you, but it is your right to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)He says stuff that I'm scared to say in public. I could go to work and recite verbatim what he says and get called into HR. That's why I like him. I think that attitude might sink in among others over time. I don't know if this aspect of Bernie's approach is unrecognized by his detractors, or whether they truly feel it's tired. In my mind it's refreshing. Summarily, I feel like this world is just not for me, and his dialog sort of encapsulates how I feel about it. And I know I'm not the only one.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)about it.
To get your link to work.. take the "@" out of the url.. like this..
https://medium.com/fatnessevermean/i-dont-like-bernie-sanders-and-you-can-die-mad-about-it-859a0c859fe2
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kcr
(15,320 posts)People in an insular, protected space like DU where people can speak more freely can huff all they want that it isn't true, but we all know how it is out on the open internet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jb5150
(1,183 posts)I'm voting blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FireChild
(2 posts)I don't care for him either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,474 posts).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,976 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden