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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
I wish Bernie spared as much nuance for the Democratic Party as he does for Fidel Castro
Asked about his past backing of Fidel Castros communist government in Cuba during an interview with 60 Minutes, Sanders began by saying, Were very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba, before adding, but, you know, its unfair to simply say everything is bad.
Bernie on the Democratic Party over the years:
In a 1985 letter newly obtained by HuffPost in which Sanders debated running for governor, he wrote: Whether I run for governor or not is really not important. What would be a tragedy, however, is for people with a radical vision to fall into the pathetic camp of the intellectually bankrupt Democratic Party.
Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders once said that he was "physically nauseated" by a speech made by President John F. Kennedy when Sanders was a young man, because Kennedy's "hatred for the Cuban Revolution [...] was so strong."
"Kennedy was young and appealing and ostensibly liberal," Sanders reminisced in a 1987 interview with The Gadfly, a student newspaper at the University of Vermont. "But I think at that point, seeing through Kennedy, and what liberalism was, was probably a significant step for me to understand that conventional politics or liberalism was not what was relevant."
In the same interview, he also criticized Jesse Jackson's decision to try and affect change by "working within the Democratic party" and offered some pointed remarks about Walter Mondale.
Sanders told The Gadfly that endorsing the Democratic ticket in 1984 and "campaigning for Mondale [...] was a very difficult thing to do."
"When I'd go around talking about Walter Mondale I would say that if elected president, I felt, Walter Mondale was going to be a pretty bad president," explained Sanders. "Now sometimes you may have to make painful decisions."
"If you go around saying that Mondale would be a great president, you would be a liar and a hypocrite," concluded Sanders. "That is not what I was saying."
Sanders's remarks about Kennedy, Jackson, and Mondale are in keeping with the Independent senator's long history of criticizing the Democratic Party.
In a Rutland Herald article published the following year, Sanders explained the crucial difference between himself and Jesse Jackson: "'Jesse believes that serious social change is possible within the Democratic Party. I don't.'"
And in a 1989 op-ed in the Burlington Free Press, Sanders lambasted "the corporate-controlled Democratic and Republican parties," and praised the National Organization of Women "for supporting the need for a progressive third party in this country."
"Like millions of other Americans, NOW understands that the Democratic and Republican parties are intellectually and morally bankrupt," Sanders wrote.
"We do not have an effective national political movement which is prepared to fight for power," argued Sanders, "and which challenges the basic assumptions and priorities of the corporate-controlled Democratic and Republican parties two political parties which have no substantive ideological differences and are, in reality, one party the party of the ruling class."
"Kennedy was young and appealing and ostensibly liberal," Sanders reminisced in a 1987 interview with The Gadfly, a student newspaper at the University of Vermont. "But I think at that point, seeing through Kennedy, and what liberalism was, was probably a significant step for me to understand that conventional politics or liberalism was not what was relevant."
In the same interview, he also criticized Jesse Jackson's decision to try and affect change by "working within the Democratic party" and offered some pointed remarks about Walter Mondale.
Sanders told The Gadfly that endorsing the Democratic ticket in 1984 and "campaigning for Mondale [...] was a very difficult thing to do."
"When I'd go around talking about Walter Mondale I would say that if elected president, I felt, Walter Mondale was going to be a pretty bad president," explained Sanders. "Now sometimes you may have to make painful decisions."
"If you go around saying that Mondale would be a great president, you would be a liar and a hypocrite," concluded Sanders. "That is not what I was saying."
Sanders's remarks about Kennedy, Jackson, and Mondale are in keeping with the Independent senator's long history of criticizing the Democratic Party.
In a Rutland Herald article published the following year, Sanders explained the crucial difference between himself and Jesse Jackson: "'Jesse believes that serious social change is possible within the Democratic Party. I don't.'"
And in a 1989 op-ed in the Burlington Free Press, Sanders lambasted "the corporate-controlled Democratic and Republican parties," and praised the National Organization of Women "for supporting the need for a progressive third party in this country."
"Like millions of other Americans, NOW understands that the Democratic and Republican parties are intellectually and morally bankrupt," Sanders wrote.
"We do not have an effective national political movement which is prepared to fight for power," argued Sanders, "and which challenges the basic assumptions and priorities of the corporate-controlled Democratic and Republican parties two political parties which have no substantive ideological differences and are, in reality, one party the party of the ruling class."
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat,
They have no ideology. Their ideology is opportunism.
In an op-ed in the New York Times in January 1989, he called the Democratic and Republican parties tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum, both adhering in his estimation to an ideology of greed and vulgarity.
"I think that nationally, the party has on issue after issue sold out so many times that if you go before the people and say, 'Hey, I'm a Democrat,' you don't usually generate a lot of enthusiasm."
In November 2011, Sanders criticized Democrats for their response to the Budget Reform Act of 2011, saying the super committee to develop a deficit reduction plan shouldn't look at cuts in social security or Medicare.
"My suggestion was literally to the Democratic leadership, simply change the name of the party from the Democratic Party to the Republican-lite versus Republicans and say, 'Yeah, we're bad, but we're not as bad as these guys,'" said Sanders on the Thom Hartmann Program.
"My suggestion was literally to the Democratic leadership, simply change the name of the party from the Democratic Party to the Republican-lite versus Republicans and say, 'Yeah, we're bad, but we're not as bad as these guys,'" said Sanders on the Thom Hartmann Program.
It's the Democratic Party that embraced the platform of Civil Rights as a Human Right. It's the Democratic Party that formed Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP etc. It's the Democratic Party that pursued a system to expand healthcare. Remember the flack Hillarycare got? It's the Democratic Party that has worked to renew and strengthen the Equal Rights Act. For greater Women's Rights. Embracing, defending and strengthening LGBTQ rights. It's the Democratic Party that listens to science!! Think how much progress we could have made on the subject of Climate Change if Al Gore was elected in 2000.
I believe we are also the party who self-reflects. The Democratic Party is not perfect. But virtually every major, new social progress made in policy legislation in the post WW2 era has been enacted a Democratic Party Administration. We've made mistakes but, you know, its unfair to simply say everything is bad.
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I wish Bernie spared as much nuance for the Democratic Party as he does for Fidel Castro (Original Post)
Otto Lidenbrock
Feb 2020
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delisen
(6,044 posts)1. So very true. nt
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
One reason a dictator like Batista, the mob and others, got control over the country and its people was their poor education and illiteracy. Thats what really does happen when you have an uneducated public. American organized crime was running the country.
The Motorcycle Diaries (Spanish: Diarios de motocicleta) is a 2004 biopic about the journey and written memoir of the 23-year-old Ernesto Guevara, who would several years later become internationally known as the iconic Marxist guerrilla leader and revolutionary Che Guevara. This book became
the New York Times bestseller.
How awful!
Thomas Jefferson: An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people.
Bernie Sanders said, Castro Immediate initiation of an intensive campaign against illiteracy was a good thing, And Obama said the same about Castro. I saw that in a video.
In the 1950s the number of doctors per thousand of the population ranked above Britain, France and the Netherlands. In Latin America it ranked in third place after Uruguay and Argentina. The mortality rate was the third lowest in the world. According to the World Health Organization, the island had the lowest infant mortality rate of Latin America. Beginning in 1960, the Ministry of Public Health began a program of nationalization and regionalization of medical services. In 1965, Cuba became the first Latin American country to legalize abortion. In 1976, Cuba's healthcare program was enshrined in Article 50 of the revised Cuban constitution which states "Everybody has the right to health protection and care. The State guarantees this right:
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)2. K & R
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)3. Great post
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)4. Hedging your bets, eh?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)6. You're right.
He can't find anything good to say about the democratic party but he sure can about the Castro regime.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)7. THANK YOU !!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,618 posts)8. K&R
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden