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Has a candidate of either party won the White House after losing the South Carolina primary? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 OP
Um, so South Carolina elects Republican Presidents? bluewater Feb 2020 #1
It's elected every president in modern history. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #2
Which is meaningless, since you are including BOTH Democrats and Republicans. bluewater Feb 2020 #3
Or it points to South Carolina's unique role in selecting former presidents. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #4
Not really. Not at all actually. bluewater Feb 2020 #7
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Except for the small fact that South Carolina had a State Convention which Jimmy Carter won DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #10
Thanks for the information bluewater Feb 2020 #12
I'll answer for the Democrats. I don't care about the Republicans: Sloumeau Feb 2020 #9
That's a different question. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #11
Sorry. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #13
Here is the primary source DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #14
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. Um, so South Carolina elects Republican Presidents?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

Has a candidate of either party won the White House after losing the South Carolina primary?


Ok...


Strange thing to trumpet that around...




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. It's elected every president in modern history.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:54 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. Which is meaningless, since you are including BOTH Democrats and Republicans.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:55 AM
Feb 2020

That's like betting on all the horses in a horse race.

SC used to be later in the cycle, so the frontrunners for the nomination in both parties were more of a settled issue.

And, gasp, either the Democrat or the Republican won the White House afterwards.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. Or it points to South Carolina's unique role in selecting former presidents.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. Not really. Not at all actually.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

It just points out that the frontrunners for BOTH parties were pretty much determined by the time the SC primary rolled around.

SC used to be later in the cycle.

I mean, it's a pretty sure bet in the General Election that either a Democrat or a Republican will win the White House.


For example, in 1992, both the Republican nominee GHW Bush and the Democratic nominee Bill Clinton won their respective SC primary.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to bluewater (Reply #3)

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. Except for the small fact that South Carolina had a State Convention which Jimmy Carter won
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
12. Thanks for the information
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
9. I'll answer for the Democrats. I don't care about the Republicans:
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:07 PM
Feb 2020

From recent history, from Wikipedia:

Democratic Presidential Primaries--South Carolina.

Winners:
----------

2016 Hillary
2012 Obama
2008 Obama
2004 Edwards
2000 Gore
1996 Clinton
1992 Clinton
1988 Jesse Jackson
1984 uncommitted
1980 Jimmy Carter
1976 George Wallace
1972 George Wallace

You can see that sometimes people other than the eventual primary winner won in South Carolina. For example:

Jimmy Carter did win (changed from "did not win"--Wikipedia error) the S. Carolina primary in 1976, and then won the primary and then won the Presidency.
George McGovern did win not the S. Carolina primary in the 1972 Democratic Primary, but won then primary and then lost the Presidency. This means that South Carolina has not always been an absolute bellweather of future Presidential winners.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. That's a different question.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

BTW Jimmy Carter did win the South Carolina Convention:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=585492

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
13. Sorry.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020

Wikipedia indicates in two places that George Wallace won SC in 1976.
1. By coloring SC pink on the U.S. map on the right
2. by listing SC as one of the three states he won.

However, later they indicate that 9 delegates were given to Carter and 8 to Wallace, so I will change my answer above.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. Here is the primary source
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1976/04/01/75713327.html?pageNumber=22


Wiki is a great tool but it pays to check the primary sources.
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