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Biden 36% v Sanders 16% in new SC poll announced on MSNBC (Original Post) brush Feb 2020 OP
Hoping Steyer falls apart like in Nevada...and Joe gains more. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #1
But but....Joe should pack it in. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #2
Joe will win EVERY SINGLE PRIMARY where 60% of the voters are African American! bluewater Feb 2020 #4
Having solid support from the AA community is a good thing of course. But how many states is that? totodeinhere Feb 2020 #12
No other primary will have 60% of the voters be African American. bluewater Feb 2020 #14
And AA support for Joe outside of the South might not be as strong. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #15
Mississippi, 71% of the Democratic electorate in the state is black Celerity Feb 2020 #23
List of U.S. states and territories by African-American population Celerity Feb 2020 #22
Did the SC primary always have the highest % of African American voters. Um, I guess not. ;) bluewater Feb 2020 #24
Mississippi is higher, 71% Celerity Feb 2020 #25
SC had a higher % of primary voters be African American than many states (cont'd) bluewater Feb 2020 #27
thanks for the article as well!!! Celerity Feb 2020 #29
Sorry to see my candidate fading, but.... GO JOE!!! Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #3
I know PatSeg Feb 2020 #7
I so wished she had went after Bernie harder and sooner nt Celerity Feb 2020 #30
That would be a hell of a win for Joe. bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #5
brush, thank you so very much for posting this! :) Sloumeau Feb 2020 #6
So if Biden gets 36 percent and Bernie 16 percent jimfields33 Feb 2020 #8
63 delegates (of which 54 are pledged delegates) LanternWaste Feb 2020 #16
This is great news! PatSeg Feb 2020 #9
I assume this is a poll of only Democrats? Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #10
If Joe keeps going up mainstreetonce Feb 2020 #11
Yes. brush Feb 2020 #13
@JoeBiden Leads New #SouthCarolina Starboard Communications ( Gothmog Feb 2020 #17
That's probably an outlier, but would be great for Biden if true. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #20
I don't believe a bit of these polls. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #18
This last round of polling is creating high expectations for Joe. tritsofme Feb 2020 #19
Biden needs for Steyer to remain unviable. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #21
It might bring out more russian and Republican ratfucking. I hope not. Squinch Feb 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #28
 

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
1. Hoping Steyer falls apart like in Nevada...and Joe gains more.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020
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LakeArenal

(28,858 posts)
2. But but....Joe should pack it in.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020


According to a dearth of posts from Sanders supporters.
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
4. Joe will win EVERY SINGLE PRIMARY where 60% of the voters are African American!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:35 PM
Feb 2020

South Carolina will prove that this Saturday!

Now THAT's Joementum!



Joking. Mostly.


Good luck to Joe and all the other candidates going forward into Super Tuesday on March 3rd.

Well, except for Bloomberg.




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totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
12. Having solid support from the AA community is a good thing of course. But how many states is that?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:46 PM
Feb 2020

If Joe wins SC by a big margin then of course that is a positive thing for his campaign. And it might give him some momentum going into Super Tuesday. But with polls showing Bernie leading big in California and trending up in Texas among other places, Joe might need more than just sold AA support.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. No other primary will have 60% of the voters be African American.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020

Even the other southern states are not projected to be that high.

South Carolina is something of a special case.

But, it is very good for Joe to win there. He could use the bounce before Super Tuesday.

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totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
15. And AA support for Joe outside of the South might not be as strong.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:14 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie placed a close second among AA voters in Nevada and he won the younger AA demographic there.

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Celerity

(43,589 posts)
23. Mississippi, 71% of the Democratic electorate in the state is black
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:01 PM
Feb 2020
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/primaries/polls/ms/Dem

other states have very high proportions too

Plus DC
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Celerity

(43,589 posts)
22. List of U.S. states and territories by African-American population
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:55 PM
Feb 2020
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
24. Did the SC primary always have the highest % of African American voters. Um, I guess not. ;)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:11 PM
Feb 2020

Let me see if I can find a link to those numbers....

Aha, here it is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/25/bidens-margin-with-black-voters-likely-wont-yield-advantage-it-did-hillary-clinton/?arc404=true


Scroll down to the chart that showed the racial composition of 2016 Democratic primary voters by state.

That clearly shows that SC has by far and away the highest % of the electorate in the primary being African Americans.

But I do notice that's not a complete list, so let me see if I can find numbers for Mississippi since you mentioned that state...

can't find much historically but this:

The key to Clinton's success, however, was an 89-11 showing among African American voters, who made up 71% of the Democratic electorate in the state.[


Well, I stand corrected. Apparently Mississippi at 71% was higher in 2016 then SC at 61% of the electorate being black primary voters.



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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
27. SC had a higher % of primary voters be African American than many states (cont'd)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:26 PM
Feb 2020

that had a higher percentage of black residents in the 2016 primaries..

I don't know why this was true, but it was and is projected to be that way this year also.

You replied as I was editing. But thanks for pointing out Mississippi.

But take a look at the data from the Washington post for data on the demographics of the 2016 primary in general.

SC is at the extreme high end of African American % in the actual primary electorate, i.e. those people that actually voted.

In 2016, for example, SC had a higher % of it's actual primary voters be African Americans than many states that had a higher overall % of black residents.

That article also does an excellent job analyzing how black support might not be able to help Biden as much as it Did Hillary Clinto back in 2016.

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Celerity

(43,589 posts)
29. thanks for the article as well!!!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:41 PM
Feb 2020
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Happy Hoosier

(7,425 posts)
3. Sorry to see my candidate fading, but.... GO JOE!!!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020
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PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
7. I know
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020

Warren is a far more dynamic and persuasive candidate than the MSM has portrayed. In some debates, the moderators pretty much ignored her, but when she speaks, she has a lot to say.

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Celerity

(43,589 posts)
30. I so wished she had went after Bernie harder and sooner nt
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020
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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
5. That would be a hell of a win for Joe.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
6. brush, thank you so very much for posting this! :)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020


This is *awesome* news for Joe Biden!



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jimfields33

(16,018 posts)
8. So if Biden gets 36 percent and Bernie 16 percent
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

Biden gets 19 delegates. Bernie gets 7 delegates. South Carolina has 52 delegates.

So complete total would be 34 delegates for Biden and 52 delegates for sanders leaving South Carolina if the percentages hold for both of them.



Hope my math is correct.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. 63 delegates (of which 54 are pledged delegates)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:53 PM
Feb 2020
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PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
9. This is great news!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:40 PM
Feb 2020

I watched in recent CNN town hall and he was incredible. Hopefully, he can sustain this momentum!

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Qutzupalotl

(14,337 posts)
10. I assume this is a poll of only Democrats?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020

If so, I expect the SC results to be a little tighter due to “Operation Chaos 2020.”

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mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
11. If Joe keeps going up
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

and Bernie gets less than 15 %, Bernie does not get any SC delegates?
Is that correct?

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Gothmog

(145,667 posts)
17. @JoeBiden Leads New #SouthCarolina Starboard Communications (
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 02:55 PM
Feb 2020
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TexasTowelie

(112,520 posts)
20. That's probably an outlier, but would be great for Biden if true.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:48 PM
Feb 2020

Receiving all 54 pledged delegates would put him into the lead going into Super Tuesday.

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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
18. I don't believe a bit of these polls.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:41 PM
Feb 2020

We need to be sure and get out the vote EVERYWHERE, especially states like SC with open primaries. The GOP is not being shy about their plan to have people switch parties for the day and vote for BS because he would be easier to beat. The amount of people who will not vote for a Socialist is huge. We need to make sure we get out the vote in every single state.

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tritsofme

(17,413 posts)
19. This last round of polling is creating high expectations for Joe.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:43 PM
Feb 2020

Making it even more critical that he delivers.

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TexasTowelie

(112,520 posts)
21. Biden needs for Steyer to remain unviable.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:51 PM
Feb 2020

If Steyer becomes viable then it results in the loss of about 5 or 6 delegates.

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Squinch

(51,053 posts)
26. It might bring out more russian and Republican ratfucking. I hope not.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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