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100+ Black Writers, Scholars & Educators Endorse Sanders (Original Post) Nanjeanne Feb 2020 OP
Multiply that number by 5 and you get the amount that support Biden AGeddy Feb 2020 #1
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #2
Just indicating the difference in black support for Biden vs Sanders AGeddy Feb 2020 #3
Quality is more significant than numbers to some. These are scholars and educators, not politicians JudyM Feb 2020 #6
They all still only have ONE vote PatSeg Feb 2020 #8
Yeah, you're right. Joe has the support of regular folks tirebiter Feb 2020 #4
There's this. underthematrix Feb 2020 #5
Wow, that's a serious statement, and unusual Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #7
List below Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #11
THANK YOU Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #13
Check box for Putin and the Repubs. What is going ON with these people? Hortensis Feb 2020 #9
Did you post this in the wrong thread? What's wrong with what people? Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #10
Tell me. Anyone here LIKE the people they're voting for Hortensis Feb 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #18
Just speculation indeed. Holy shit. Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #12
I treasure my copy of Robin DG Kelley's book on Thelonious Monk! Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #14
Don't you think intellectuals should be firmly connected to Hortensis Feb 2020 #19
I edited this because it's useless to respond to your rankings. No worries. Carry on. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #20
Did ANY by chance explain Sanders' support for dismantling NATO, Hortensis Feb 2020 #21
Glad you were able to decipher that! Might I add Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #15
Yeah, I think it's at the point Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #16
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
1. Multiply that number by 5 and you get the amount that support Biden
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
2. What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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AGeddy

(509 posts)
3. Just indicating the difference in black support for Biden vs Sanders
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JudyM

(29,274 posts)
6. Quality is more significant than numbers to some. These are scholars and educators, not politicians
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020

and pundits.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
8. They all still only have ONE vote
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tirebiter

(2,539 posts)
4. Yeah, you're right. Joe has the support of regular folks
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:13 PM
Feb 2020

The ones who have households to maintain.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
7. Wow, that's a serious statement, and unusual
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 04:41 PM
Feb 2020

in the sense that authors/scholars of this sort don't tend to do public endorsements in political races. Much of their work is inherently political, but they generally remain independent when it comes to partisan elections. I'm amazed to see Robin DG Kelley on this!

Is there a full list of the people who signed? I would love to see who all is on board with this.

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Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
11. List below
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 05:45 PM
Feb 2020

Beatrice J. Adams, Doctoral candidate, History, Rutgers Unviersity
Nikol G. Alexander-Floyd, J.D., Ph.D., Associate Professor, Rutgers University
Laylah Ali, Professor of Art, Williams College
Abdul Alkalimat, Professor Emeritus, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Sam Anderson, Center for the Advancement of Black Education
Herman L. Bennett, Professor of History at the Graduate Center, City University of New York
Carwil Bjork-James, Associate Professor, Vanderbilt University
Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, Professor, Sociology, Duke University
Carole Boyce Davies, Professor of English and Africana Studies, Cornell University
Lisa Brock, Associate Professor of History, Kalamazoo College
Elsa Barkley Brown, Associate Professor of History and Women's Studies, University of Maryland College Park
Nicole A. Burrowes, Assistant Professor, African and African Diaspora Studies Department, University of Texas, Austin
Linda E. Carty, Associate Professor, African American Studies, Syracuse University
Rosa Clemente, Professor, Independent Journalist, Producer
Matthew Countryman, Associate Professor, Departments of History and American Culture University of Michigan
Dana-Ain Davis, Professor, City University of New York
Michael Dawson, John D. MacArthur Professor of Political Science and the College, University of Chicago
Frank Deale, Professor of Law, City University of New York Law School
Ajamu Amiri Dillahunt, Ph.D. Student, Michigan State University
James Counts Early, Former Assistant Secretary for Education and Public Service Smithsonian Institution
Erica R. Edwards, Associate Professor of English, Rutgers University-New Brunswick
Ashley D. Farmer Ph.D., Assistant Professor, History & African & African Diaspora Studies, University of Texas-Austin
Crystal N. Feimster, Professor, Yale University, African American Studies Department American Studies Program, History Department, and Women, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program
Jonathan Fenderson, Assistant Professor of African & African-American Studies at Washington University in St. Louis and Associate Editor, The Black Scholar
Johanna Fernández, PhD, Department of History, Baruch College, City University of New York
Bill Fletcher Jr., Independent Scholar and Author, Executive Editor, Global African Worker
Tyrone Forman, Professor, African American Studies and Sociology, University of Illinois at Chicago
Paul Foster, MPA, Emerita Clinical Co-ordinator, Harlem Physician Assistant Program, Sophie Davis School of Biomedical Education, CCNY
Olubukola Gbadegesin, Associate Professor, African American Studies and Art History, Saint Louis University
Adom Getachew, Neubauer Family Assistant Professor of Political Science and the College, University of Chicago
Keedra Gibba, Teacher of History and Social Studies, Francis W. Parker School, Chicago
Dayo Gore, Professor, Ethnic Studies and Critical Gender Studies, University of California, San Diego
Cecilia A. Green, Associate Professor of Sociology, Syracuse University
Josh Guild, Associate Professor of History and African American Studies, Princeton University
Sarah Haley, Associate Professor, University of California, Los Angeles
Darrick Hamilton, Professor and Director, Kirwan Institute for the Study of Race and Ethnicity at The Ohio State University
Michael G. Hanchard, Gustave C. Kuemmerle Professor and Chair of the Department of Africana Studies, University of Pennsylvania
Diane Harriford, Professor, Department of Sociology, Vassar College
Cheryl I. Harris, Professor, University of California, Los Angeles
Faye V. Harrison, Professor of African American Studies and Anthropology, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Renee Camille Hatcher, Assistant Professor of Law, John Marshall, University of Illinois at Chicago
Kelly Lytle Hernandez, Professor and Thomas E. Lifka Chair in History, University of California, Los Angeles
Marc Lamont Hill, Professor and the Steve Charles Chair in Media, Cities and Solutions, College of Media and Education, Temple University
Elizabeth Hinton, Professor of History and African and African American Studies, Harvard University
Gerald Horne, Moores Professor of History and African American Studies, University of Houston
Zenzele Isoke, Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies, University of Minnesota
Lynette A. Jackson, Associate Professor, Gender and Women’s Studies and Black Studies, University of Illinois at Chicago
Joy James, Ebenzer Fitch Professor of the Humanities, Williams College
Destin Jenkins, Assistant Professor of History, University of Chicago
Ryan Cecil Jobson, Neubauer Family Assistant Professor, Anthropology, University of Chicago
Cheryl Johnson-Odim, Ph.D., Provost Emerita and Professor of History, Dominican University, Illinois
Tracey Johnson, Ph.D. candidate, Rutgers University
Robin D.G. Kelley, Distinguished Professor and Gary B. Nash Endowed Chair in U.S. History, University of California, Los Angeles
Ainsley LeSure, Assistant Professor of Politics, Black Studies Advisory Council, Occidental College
La TaSha Levy, Assistant Professor of American Ethnic Studies, University of Washington-Seattle
R. L’Heureux Lewis-McCoy, Associate Professor, New York University
Toussaint Losier, Assistant Professor, University of Massachusetts – Amherst
Sheldon Bernard Lyke, Assistant Professor at Northern Kentucky University Chase College of Law
Minkah Makalani, Director of the John L. Warfield Center for African and African American Studies, University of Texas at Austin
Austin McCoy, Assistant Professor of History, Auburn University
Deborah E. McDowell, Alice Griffin Professor of English, Director, Carter G. Woodson Institute, University of Virginia
Erik S. McDuffie, Associate Professor, Department of African American Studies, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Mireille Miller-Young, Associate Professor, Feminist Studies, University of California, Santa Barbara
Quincy T. Mills, Associate Professor of History, University of Maryland, College Park
Leith Mullings, Distinguished Professor of Anthropology Emerita, Graduate Center, City University of New York
Donna Murch, Associate Professor of History, Rutgers University
Linda Rae Murray, M.D., MPH, Adjunct Assistant Professor, School of Public Health, University of Illinois at Chicago
Premilla Nadasen, Professor of History, Barnard College, and President of the National Women’s Studies Association (2018 -2020)
Celia E. Naylor, Associate Professor of History and Africana Studies, Barnard College, Columbia University
Rosemary Ndubuizu, Ph.D., Interdisciplinary Scholar, Washington, D.C.
Mark Anthony Neal, James B. Duke Distinguished Professor of African American Studies, Duke University
Prexy Rozell Nesbitt, Presidential Fellow, Chapman University
Margo Okazawa-Rey, Barbara Lee Distinguished Chair, Mills College & Professor Emerita, San Francisco State University
James Padilioni, Jr, Ph.D., Postdoctoral Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Religion, Swarthmore College
Melina Pappademos, Associate Professor of History and Africana Studies, University of Connecticut
Kaneesha Cherelle Parsard, Provost’s Postdoctoral Fellow, English, University of Chicago
Tianna S. Paschel, Associate Professor, University of California, Berkeley
Earl Picard, Independent Scholar, Atlanta, Georgia
Steven C. Pitts, UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education
Sherie M. Randolph, Associate Professor of History, Georgia Institute of Technology
Barbara Ransby, Distinguished Professor, African American Studies, Gender and Women’s Studies and History, University of Illinois at Chicago
Ismail Rashid, Professor of History, Vassar College
Aisha Ray, Professor Emerita, Erikson Institute
Shana L. Redmond, Professor, University of California, Los Angeles
Russell Rickford, Associate Professor of History, Cornell University
J. T. Roan, Assistant Professor of African American Studies, School of Transformation, Arizona State University
Francesca T. Royster, Professor, DePaul University
Tanya L. Saunders, Associate Professor, Center for Latin American Studies, University of Florida
Kesho Yvonne Scott, Professor Emerita, Grinnell College
Barbara Smith, Independent Scholar, Albany, New York
Lester Spence, Professor of Political Science and Africana Studies, Johns Hopkins University
Robyn C. Spencer, Associate Professor, Lehman College, City University of New York
David Stovall, Professor, Black Studies, University of Illinois at Chicago
Stacey Sutton, Assistant Professor, Urban Planning & Policy, University of Illinois at Chicago
Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, Assistant Professor, Department of African American Studies, Princeton University
Ula Y. Taylor, Professor of African American Studies, University of California, Berkeley
Alia R. Tyner-Mullings, Associate Professor, Sociology, Guttman Community College, City University of New York
Melissa M. Valle, Assistant Professor, Sociology and African American Studies, Rutgers University-Newark
Stephen Ward, Department of Afroamerican & African Studies (DAAS), Residential College, University of Michigan
Jakobi Williams, Ruth N. Halls Associate Professor, Indiana University
Naomi R. Williams, PhD, Assistant Professor, Rutgers University
Hazel Carby, Charles C & Dorathea S Dilley Professor of African American Studies & American Studies at Yale University.
George Yancy, Samuel Candler Dobbs Professor of Philosophy, Emory University
Jasmine K. Syedullah, Assistant Professor of Africana Studies, Vassar College

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/29/step-away-fascism-and-toward-brighter-more-just-future-100-black-writers-and


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
13. THANK YOU
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

Wow, that's an impressive list of scholars.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Check box for Putin and the Repubs. What is going ON with these people?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 05:20 PM
Feb 2020

"Amazing" all right. Of course that isn't very many, and probably a fair number are conservatives, closet or declared. No doubt some populists of course, as well as some from the farther left.

Just speculation, but I'm imagining the conservatives among them think Sanders gives them a "respectable" excuse they can openly admit to vote against Democrats.

No. By definition, whatever their excuses exactly none meet my definition of adequate judgment in these dangerous times. To me, helping Russia in its war to destroy our nation is no more acceptable in people of darker complexion than in any other voters.

And I think we should suspect it's repeat behavior for most.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
10. Did you post this in the wrong thread? What's wrong with what people?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

Are you asking what’s wrong with Robin DG Kelley - American historian and writer? Marc Lamont Hill - Educator, author and BET correspondent, Barbara Ransby - writer, historian and professor.

I just didn’t understand what you were saying but maybe it doesn’t matter. I can’t figure out what this has to do with Putin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Tell me. Anyone here LIKE the people they're voting for
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

for congress? For those who do actually like some of the other candidates they're voting for, isn't there maybe some internal dissonance going on? Sanders literally and frequently promises to use citizens to attack their own choices. He promises to use those who voted for him to de-power congress in order to build on the corruption and dysfunction of an imperial presidency that the Republicans have made big steps toward. That's his self-explained plan for accomplishing his goals, whatever they are.

Yes, our intelligence services say Russia prefers to reelect Trump and is using Sanders to defeat us.

But I also believe that Sanders is self-demonstrated to be so antagonistic to our constitutional system of checks and balances that would block his socialist plans, and to Democrats in general, that electing him would also work for Russia to continue the breakdown of our representative democracy. Congress is SUPPOSED to legislate and control the budget. But Sanders literally promises to create citizen uprisings (that's you!) to threaten the representatives you just elected if they don't do what the president wants them to. This is exactly what the trumpsters and Republicans in congress are currently doing for our current president.

Are you really prepared to turn on your congressman and senators every time congress tries to protect our constitution, our principles of representative government, and whatever institutions you actually like? Like the ones that keeps you from having to turn your living room into a bedroom for your parents?

In 2007 under Pelosi and our senate leaders, Democrats immediately set to work repairing the corruption the Republicans instilled, and we will again. Do you really see yourselves fighting that in 2021?

What that hell?!

As for the quality of these intellects, denial that Russia is trying to destroy us AND of the fascism rising in our nation and many others around the planet is astonishingly dishonest and self indulgent, and a betrayal of intellect. And abetting it is unspeakably blind and irresponsible. Minorities would be hurt the most under MEAN, CRUEL, RW authoritarian, white power government, whether they vote it into power directly or the right takes over following a chaotic LW demolition abetted by Russian intelligence operations. Also women: fascists don't do women's equality either, as examination of the current purging of women from Republican caucuses demonstrates.

So, it's way past time for them to wake up to reality and they haven't. Under what's threatening to take over under the Republicans, lose their power of the vote and none of them could even get a paper published, or many even dare to try. Of course, authoritarian regimes always find collaborators from among the groups they victimize. Fascists use stooges to keep the denial going among all, but only need some.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
12. Just speculation indeed. Holy shit.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 06:03 PM
Feb 2020

Just google a couple of their names and tell me how "conservative" they are.

You have NO IDEA who these people are, so don't make bullshit accusations like this.

Holy shit.

Start with How We Get Free: Black Feminism and the Combahee River Collective or From #blacklivesmatter to Black Liberation by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor. How We Get Free won a Lambda Literary Award for LGBTQ nonfiction. How very "conservative". Come On.

Or Stephen Ward's amazing biography of James and Grace Boggs, In Love and Struggle.

Or Marc Lamont Hill, author of the award winning book Nobody.

or any of the others.

You don't know these people. You don't know their work. You don't realize that they are on the forefront of black scholarship in history, social science, art and more.

I've read books by several of these people, and short works (articles and essays etc) by others. I've MET some of these actual human beings in real life. You may be oblivious to black scholarship, but these are important people in their fields, and their words have meaning and influence.

If you disagree with them, fine, but do so with intellectual honestly, not speculation.




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Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
14. I treasure my copy of Robin DG Kelley's book on Thelonious Monk!
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Don't you think intellectuals should be firmly connected to
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

their intellects in the real world as well as in academics and scholarly pursuits? What they think obviously matters to you. Don't they have a self-assumed and very real responsibility to be more informed and analyze more deeply than the typical voter?

One party or the other is going to get control of our federal government on January 21, 2021. All past patterns suggest that if a radical lefist were to be elected president the nation would balance him with a RW congress. Both houses. As it is, many of his supporters are socially conservative populists. How would these intellectuals explain it if Sanders allied with Republicans against Democrats to get some of the demolition they both need done (in pursuit of their separate goals) and to please his RW voters? He already does sometimes, and he already has to, you know.

This is the real world. In or out of office, the Republicans and the giant hard-core power blocs they serve, combined with Russia, China, Iran, etc., would be far more powerful than Sanders sometimes combining with minority-power Democrats desperately trying to hold things together. He'd have to function within that reality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
20. I edited this because it's useless to respond to your rankings. No worries. Carry on.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:41 PM
Feb 2020

Now I gotta go wash my hair.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Did ANY by chance explain Sanders' support for dismantling NATO,
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:13 PM
Feb 2020

aligning with Putin's plan? At a time when Putin is promising to invade and restore Russia's dominion over surrounding nations? And when those nations, several right in East Europe, are being forced to rearm and grow their militaries to fight off Russian invasion?

I've never understood this. Surely no one should vote for Sanders without an explanation that satisfies all their questions. Can we agree on that? And surely someone among 100 intellectual Sanders endorsers is able to enlighten worriers. ?

Support for Russian imperialism could be an ideological thing, I suppose. Is that it? Perhaps some regret the breakup of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the planet's oldest and largest socialist dominion, and would be happy to see it restored? Presumably under better leadership, of course.

Or?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
15. Glad you were able to decipher that! Might I add
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

Southern Horrors: Women and the Politics of Rape and Lynching by Crystal Feimster

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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
16. Yeah, I think it's at the point
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020

of throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. They think Sanders's support is a cult of personality. What they dont realize is that it much, much deeper than that. If Sanders were pandering or full of shit on racial politics, this letter would not exist.

Thanks again for posting this!

Eta: wish I could live long enough to read all the books these people have written, lol

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