if he doesn’t win the nomination?

He may see this as his last chance.

for grassroots campaign donations, averaging just 27 bucks, and for volunteers signing up in the first 24/48 hours. Such a big deal was made when Kamala set a record on her first day. Bernie QUADRUPLED it... but, lo and behold, barely a peep from our "friends" in the media. Gee, what a surprise... NOT!!

Welcome to the revolution!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!

statement, not and out of line on a couple of levels.

I also bought a mug and a bumper sticker. GO BERNIE!

can't win running in the general against a Democratic nominee as an Independent.

get enough votes to win a general and would guarantee a Republican win. Bernie is a Democratic ally.

Sanders is not.

And an ally doesn’t go on Fox News to attack the Democratic Party.

and attack the Democratic Party.

But this dance will continue and so will something else.

And why do I bother anymore. They are gonna do what they do. AGAIN

Of course, that will never be good enough to endear Bernie to some people.

When did he announce?

Never mind then. You used party membership as a guarentee that current candidates would remain Democrats and not run as Independents in the general and I simply pointed out that it has happened before, ala Lieberman. Have a nice day.

I was talking about the current candidates. But I take your point about Lieberman. And also add Eugene McCarthy. So it has happened twice in the last 50 years.

And beat Trump.

He’s got a lot of support- and there are enough Republicans sick of Trump that they just might toss out Trump and give it to Sanders.

Now THERE is a thought!

By the way- I’m a Bernie Backer!

And Sanders ego may override any logic since this is his last shot.

I get it now!! Thanks for the enlightenment!!

Just not as big as Sanders.

They are democrats.

He spends a career attacking the Democratic party then runs as a Dem. Hypocritical to say the least.


There are enough real Dems who have the same issues as Bernie.

suggesting that he will.

I have listened to his speeches. I use to listen to brunch with Bernie every Friday on Thom Hartman’s show.

He repeats the same talking points over and over. He has a long career in the Senate sponsoring bills and usually before he does he tells us what he is going to do.

For all that he has little real wins on the books. So the question I ask is why do people follow such a talker with little to show for it.

That gets me thinking of what does he want as a presidential candidate.,

what we like and don't like about the candidates and move forward .

even some who criticized him for having those long-held progressive positions that were deemed "too radical." Once they realized how popular those positions were, of course, they hopped aboard the bandwagon.. now it's: why do we need Bernie?! Sorry, no thanks... think I'll stick with Bernie, a true original who's not afraid to lead on controversial issues.

Welcome to the revolution... hindsight is 2020!!
Bernie & Elizabeth... the "dream ticket"!!

Otherwise, no thanks.

I think we have some really good candidates with each bring out important issues. I suspect whomever wins the primary will be our next President. I just don't see many people wanting another 4 years of Trump. Of course I thought the same thing about "W".

even those decades younger.

things change as we age and that is simply a fact. I just hope the Dems do not make the same mistake we did in 2016 and let our hurt feelingd cause someone like Trump to get elected again simply because our favorite candidate does not win the Primaries. We usually get the government we deserve.

if he wants to run for the Democratic nomination.

Page 9, Article VI.

https://www.demrulz.org/wp-content/files/2020_Call_for_the_Convention_12.21.18_w-attachments.pdf

Paper work doesn't seem like Bernie Sanders' strength.

We got nothing.

they will tell him he can't run as a Democrat if he hasn't. You know rules and such.

Of course I would think if he hadn't signed it they would have come right out and said he can't run under the Democratic party banner by now. I don't think they would make a rule to turn around and ignore it although I could be wrong. But like you said, "We got nothing"

Because he hasn't followed the second part of the new rules.

to an affirmation heard from the back seat of a teen's auto: "Of course, I love you!"

Nope... nope... no!

let the chips fall where they may in the primaries.

This is the actual rule that governs whether sanders can run as a member of the Democratic party https://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/2019-01-03-2020_Call_for_the_Convention_12.21.18_w-attachments.pdf

(and text of the new rules) are the last page of this document (CALL For the 2020 Democratic National Convention):

"Presidential Candidate Written Affirmation"

https://www.demrulz.org/wp-content/files/2020_Call_for_the_Convention_12.21.18_w-attachments.pdf

I do know that he hasn't complied with this:

"At the time a presidential candidate announces their candidacy publicly, they must publicly affirm that they are a Democrat." (VI. Presidential Candidates)

Finally, I don't think many, if any, are "complaining about him being allowed to run as a Democrat", but they're concerned that he run as an EQUAL to all the other Democrats who are running and that he follow the same rules that everyone else are following.

.....the rule is "at the time a presidential candidate announces their candidacy publicly, they must publicly affirm that they are a Democrat".

I don't see that it happened. I do know that in his announcement yesterday he didn't "publicly affirm that they (he is) are a Democrat."

Then we shall see and know shortly I would assume. It either is or isn't going to happen. My point is that I hope it happens because I believe it will be better for the Democratic Party.

papers to have the candidate sign.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/bernie-sanders-sign-dnc-affirmation-run-as-democrat/index.html

he'll go back to being an independent again.

does he have? lol

If not us, he sits by himself alone.

...."at the time a presidential candidate announces their candidacy publicly, they must publicly affirm that they are a Democrat."

Do you know that he did? I watched his public announcement of his candidacy. He didn't.

....and they were all elected as Democrats. Only one hasn't done either.

will learn shortly whether or not Bernie is going to be allowed to run as a Democrat.

I don't really take as much issue as some with Sanders temporarily changing his party affiliation in order to seek the Dem. nomination (the bigger problem is his bashing of the Democratic Party). And preventing him from running would be a PR nightmare, so the DNC rule change is effectively meaningless. But he's certainly not owed any gratitude for *not* running as a 3rd party candidate. No more than any of our other candidates are due gratitude for not running as a 3rd party candidate.

other 3rd Party candidate that could do this. He has given every indication that he's not going to do that. Personally, I'd like to see the focus be on issues rather than the person. Politics is a rough game and I think there may be some contentious debates among all the candidates (Clinton vs Obama in 2008 had some pretty serious bashing as I remember). If you don't agree with my wording, no problem .

Thanking anyone for not playing that role is about as silly as thanking someone for not murdering anyone today.

I've said more than once that Sanders is misguided but not evil or stupid. I wouldn't ever expect him to launch a 3rd party bid. What he needs to do is not bash the Democratic Party, while competing for the nomination along with everyone else who does so without bashing our party.

I'm looking forward to the debates and hearing what all the candidates have to say. Some might see the give and take as bashing while others might see it as constructive criticism. I'm sure we'll have plenty to argue about.

2 very different things.

Democrats.

think they are bashing the Party because they agree with what he says. As I said before, I think it's better to have Bernie debating inside as opposed to outside in the primary.

...and outright bashing of the Democratic Party as an institution. Bernie has clearly, objectively-speaking done the latter. Hardly anyone who competes for their party's nomination does that, but Sanders most certainly has. To deny that is akin to denying gravity.

It's best to let him run, fizzle out and hope that he doesn't bash the party as much as he has in the past. He has no shot at the nomination, and hopefully he'll call it quits sooner than he did last time.

A life long Democrat, Lieberman lost the Democratic primary to run again as a Democrat for his Senate seat at the time. So he formed his own "Party" and ran against the Democrat in the General Election (with a lot of Republican support).

Being a life long Democrat doesn't assure anyone of anything in regards to the future. Republican Senator Richard Shelby was Democratic Senator Richard Shelby before he suddenly switched parties. In the case o0f Bernie Sanders we at least have a track record to go on. He entered the Democratic primaries in 2016, lost the nomination, and endorsed the Democratic nominee and did not run against her in the General.

if once BS is a dem again.. he bashes our party throughout this primary like he has for the last 2 years.. Starting in Nov 2016 right after the rigging in of trump.. when he went on CNN and called us the "party of the elite.. and how "humiliated he was".

better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in.

I confess it warms the cockles of my heart to see them have to deal with the issue

would be silly not to welcome Bernie to the "Big Tent" party with open arms.

No fear in that young lady!!

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So why would he not do it this time?

And the *ONLY* reason why St. Bern is running as a Dem is so he can have his precious access to party funding and organizational resources.

good luck with your boy in the primary

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He was supposed to last week but then again he was also going to release his tax returns

If the DNC is serious about the new new rule, then this will need to be addressed