Democratic Primaries

tman

(983 posts) Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:23 PM Mar 2020

Anyone else have ZERO interest in policy debates in these times?

And certainly not purity tests or the suicidal tactics of splitting the party apart along certain factions for denigration and fighting old fights, all but guaranteeing an uphill fight in Nov 2020.

The uncomfortable truth - The next Democratic President will not get any major peice of legislation passed by congress, let alone remain intact by Trump's courts. He/she is likely to be a policy failure and will be obstructed at every turn.

Inheriting the presidency from Trump will be a poisoned chalice for whomever drinks it, but they'll be saving the country from further destruction.

In short, none of this matters, for the only thing that truly matters is removing Trump from office.

We live in truly dangerous times and I don't think one or two of the candidates seem to fully appreciate or even care about that fact lest they be 'denied' the nomination.

Wake up. America is fighting for her very survival.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Anyone else have ZERO interest in policy debates in these times? (Original Post) tman Mar 2020 OP

pretty much, though it goes beyond merely removing donnie unblock Mar 2020 #1

+1000 NT Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #2

If we win the Senate and the WH everything you posted doesn't compute. brush Mar 2020 #3

Winning the Senate genxlib Mar 2020 #8

Hasn't stopped Moscow Mitch. Look at SCOTUS. brush Mar 2020 #9

Completely agree. Between the candidates, I couldn't give less of a shit about policy differences. coti Mar 2020 #4

Pessimistic and short-sighted. Jirel Mar 2020 #5

God yes. If we're going to do this, do it with Senate candidates Recursion Mar 2020 #6

I have one issue in this election, beat Trump Green Line Mar 2020 #7

Rick Wilson has been saying it for months : This is a referendum on Trump, there is NO requirement OnDoutside Mar 2020 #10

unblock

(52,233 posts)

1. pretty much, though it goes beyond merely removing donnie

Reply to tman (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:27 PM

Mar 2020

election integrity and a restoration of democracy and rule of law as well.

but yeah, i can't be bothered with the policy details of things like health care. *any* democratic president will make things better on that front, and while usually i'd be keenly interested in such matters, the difference between donnie and any democrat is huge compared to the differences among the democrat and any policy details.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)

2. +1000 NT

Reply to unblock (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:30 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brush

(53,778 posts)

3. If we win the Senate and the WH everything you posted doesn't compute.

Reply to tman (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:36 PM

Mar 2020

Of course we have to keep the House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

genxlib

(5,527 posts)

8. Winning the Senate

Reply to brush (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:26 PM

Mar 2020

Doesn't get us to the 60 votes it takes to break a filibuster.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brush

(53,778 posts)

9. Hasn't stopped Moscow Mitch. Look at SCOTUS.

Reply to genxlib (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:30 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

coti

(4,612 posts)

4. Completely agree. Between the candidates, I couldn't give less of a shit about policy differences.

Reply to tman (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:37 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Jirel

(2,018 posts)

5. Pessimistic and short-sighted.

Reply to tman (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:47 PM

Mar 2020

We are supposed to work out who is the best candidate through testing - policy, plans, energy, stamina, voter appeal. I am always interested in these issues, and in debate, although not in this stupid 1 minute format we have this year so that no questions can truly be answered except in watered-down sound bites.

Yes, the GOP will try to block a Dem president at every turn. That doesn't mean that you give up. You get the best presidential candidate you can, then everyone works to get them elected after the selection process (polite, angry, or otherwise) is finished. That's literally how it's supposed to work.

There are 2 congressional elections in the 1st term - 2020 and 2022. What, are you going to just give up on those? This is not a battle just for POTUS. This has to be a battle for POTUS, house, and senate.

Yes, inheriting Dump's mess is a poisoned chalice. But we CAN turn things around. Expecting we can do no more than stop a madman from doing worse is surrendering, where no surrender is merited.