Either way, this (along with Pete's exit) clears things up a bit.

I'm a little surprised by Klobuchar's timing because she could have taken MN delegates. Sanders is second in that state while Biden is 4th. Maybe the bigger picture is her dropping out and supporting Biden would help him in the other states more.

Watch for it. Will she endorse Bernie? I don't know. She might not endorse anyone, but might just endorse Biden, as a big surprise to a lot of people. Secretary of the Treasury Warren? Who can say?

what a tough sell Medicare for All is politically

Like so many Democrats, I would like to see it happen.
But getting rid of Trump is too important and shouldn't get bogged down with "Death Panels" and whatever other garbage the GOP will come up with.

Don’t let your fear of what the GOP might do shape your agenda to fit what the GOP wants. That’s behaving like a battered wife. That’s how they win. Our Democratic Party moderates need to get bolder and give voters something they can get behind. How will moderates attract the Sanders voters?

Very well said! Thank you.

Sanders, if on the losing side, MUST insist that his base goes all out for Biden (if Biden is on the winning side). But I don't think he needs to be reminded. Dems MUST unite behind their candidate.

The circumstances are: we have to beat Trump soundly because he's going to cheat.

If we don't beat him, we get nothing. All the stuff Elizabeth and Bernie preach about will not happen. I love what they talk about. I wish it were a reality. But that ain't gonna happen with the corruption in the Oval Office, GOP Senate, GOP House members and the questionable appointments to the courts.

Without power, we have nothing.

Trump and the GOP are going to do whatever corrupt things they can to steal this election. They have to because the consequences of them losing is jail for a number of them. So this time around, we cannot give them anything to hang on. No death panels. No allegations of Commie, no outrageous claims of taxation & expenditures on those programs, no claims that they're going to take people's health insurance away, etc.

Can't do that this time. We can't afford to give them any edge politically.

Once we have power, let's talk more specifically about what we can accomplish. And move us towards the policies Elizabeth and Bernie are talking about. None of that stuff matter unless we win. So we need policies that are going to garner the most support.

That is what will frighten Trump & the GOP the most.

includes keeping the House and taking back the senate. A president can only be as progressive as the congress he has to work with.

Someone that scares the crap out of bankers and DC lobbyists... like Warren, or Abrams, or ??

We have to flip the senate from Moscow Mitch and keep the House. And we can't do either with Bernie, sorry to say, even though I agree with a lot of his policies.

The only issue in 2020 for all Democrats, moderates, progressives, liberals, should be removal of Trump and as many GOP as possible.

To many voters over look the fact that the President does not make the laws - the Congress does. The President may lead an effort to pass legislation that would advance a voters Pet issue but for sure they will never see their pet issue passed into law if they don't vote for a candidate that can beat Trump. Joe Biden is the only one who can beat Trump.

She may not endorse at all, but I agree with you that she probly drops out this week.
I expect the party to start lining up behind Biden and I can enthusiastically support that.

his 30% ceiling, and will have to watch Biden soar past him.

30% is not a majority, I understand.

Biden is rebuilding the Obama coalition. I expect he'll have some crossover appeal to moderate independents.
Possibly even some of the less rabid Republicans.

him repeatedly in 2015-2016; and in 2015 she was interested in possibly being Biden's running mate if he ran, and then in 2016 Hillary's.

Behind that pattern is the reality that they're oil and water. (He's oil, she's water, which makes liberal Democrats soap. )

Someone recently described fundamentally economically conservative Warren, who can be hard to peg, as radical in defense of tradition. The tradition would be the principles, opportunities and prosperity which were created by both progressive liberals and progressive conservatives of the New Deal era. She's always struck me as potentially a modern-day Frances Perkins.

In contrast, Sanders-type class-warfare populists/radicals passionately opposed them then as corrut and are eager now to kick over the New Deal bucket and finish off its destruction.

Besides, Sanders just doesn't play well with others, and especially doesn't tolerate competition or disagreement, which would make being even a self-effacing, mostly ceremonial VP very unpleasant. (And who can see Warren agreeing to that role?) Also, who could imagine that Sanders would want to pair with someone believed by observers to be far smarter and more competent, with much better developed ideas, than him? Even if she wasn't a woman?

It's laughable, really.

Panic has set in.

Ergo, Warren.

Laughable-scary, though? Populists are dangerous. If they could have when they were chanting "Lock her up" and "Hillary for prison" in 2016, they really WOULD have imprisoned her for running against their leaders.

And there's another huge difference: Warren just doesn't have the vicious, aggressively antagonistic character that Sanders' angry class-warfare mob is taking on. She's an alliance-creator excited about bringing groups together to build good things. Whereas both Sanders' and Trump's mobs need to attack and tear down, and defeating opponents isn't enough for many, they want to hurt those who dare oppose them.

Fresh, clear water versus poison fuel oil threatening to go up in flames and take us all with it. And in this scenario, Putin's the match.

I'm sure Klobuchar chose this time as most strategic for defeating Sanders/Trump/Russia. Earlier someone suggested it might be more valuable for her and others to stay in and draw delegates away from Sanders for a while, but apparently she doesn't expect to break 15.

If Warren goes to a Cabinet position, it may be more difficult to control the Senate at the next Congressional election.

Losing in MN wouldn't have done her political future any good.

I do think she has a bright future ahead of her. She's been my second choice.

And remember that due to early voting many votes have already been cast before Pete and Amy dripped out.

This poll taken on 2/28 shows that Bernie and Joe have an equal number of voters who prefer them as a second choice. So if this poll is accurate it means that Bernie will get his fair share of votes from supporters of Pete and Amy.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-there-really-lanes-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/

Amy voters will not vote for him. We need unity and reject anyone who tries to divide the party.

Sanders is leading Klobuchar by 2.2 and biden by 15.5. So it will be interesting to see where Senator Klobuchars votes are going to go.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

Average as of March 2, 2020
ACTIVE CANDIDATES
Sanders
26.2%

Klobuchar
24.4%

Warren
14.4%

Biden
10.7%

Bloomberg
5.6%

Gabbard
1.5%

They are saying ignore all polls up to South Carolina. I hope that one is before.

crappy from my pov. thanks

supporters of Amy

will hurt Bernie here. Minnesota has 75 pledged delegates and 6 pledged alternates. Snark is neither helpful or appropriate.

That's unnecessarily nasty.

Ready for similar remarks when Warren drops out?

Or, wait. No they didn't.

Do you want another Trump term? Then quit throwing bombs like this. Get with it. Be supportive.

What will you say when Warren drops out on Wednesday?

Amy Klobuchar is smart, well-spoken, liked in her home state, and brought a lot to the table.

She had a lot of supporters, and, speaking from experience, it's very difficult when a candidate you like can't get traction.

I now there will be a police in the cabinet for you if you want one.

Let’s do this!!!!!

Good for her. I see her decision as similar to Pete's: She's clearing the way for Biden to win and heal the party. And she might not see a clear path for her own candidacy.

I salute her!

them

failing to gain ground. I went through that when Jay Inslee dropped out. But I had to be practical and accept that the numbers just weren’t there for him. It takes strength and fortitude and feet both firmly on the ground, and a head not up in the clouds.

Amy always struck me as somebody eminently practical. Which, to me, is a virtue.

She likely beats Sanders tomorrow and blocks him from those delegates. I'm not sure if there's enough time for enough of her support to swing over to Biden to help him carry the state.

Or do they get released once she is no longer in?

Campaign interruption in St Louis Park,not surprised.

Nt

It was probably hard for her to continue esp. given that she did not have any path to the nomination

Frankly I'd be happy with many of our candidates leading... I'm just thrilled we're all coming together.

of the candidates who drop out.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-there-really-lanes-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/

Go Joe!!! Dems are rallying behind you.

I'm sending another campaign donation

unless she encourages her home state voters to switch to Biden.

Looks like it's now the Joe and Bernie show.

As all he is doing is propping up Sanders. If it is down to a binary choice between Bernie or Biden, I can't imagine him choosing the former

But glad she didn't wait until after Super Tuesday.

BUT, Amy actually brings more to the party in regard to the swing states in the midwest.

My head is spinning.... thank you Amy... thank you thank you...

Link to tweet

I really was warming up to Amy, but she just didn't have a path. This is great news for Joe.

I liked Amy and Pete and Elizabeth but now will vote for Biden
Sanders has been my last choice because he’s divisive in his rhetoric and the country has had enough of that with Trump
I do approve of Sander’s economic goals
And I will vote for Sanders if he is the nominee, as will the vast majority of the supporters of other candidates
I pray that Sanders will work for whoever is the nominee but I don’t take that for granted

Amy for VP!

After both Pete and Amy dropping out, if Sanders still has a significant delegate lead after tomorrow, the M$M will have a coronation for him

The entire trajectory of the race has changed pretty much overnight. Even if Bernie wins MN it wont matter because he is going to lose in so many other places.

If he manages to keep Sanders down to a delegate lead of 150 by the end of ST, I hope Bloomberg then drops out

Thank you Senator Klobuchar!!


They are certainly rallying around the unity candidate!! Joe Biden!!!

I have liked Amy Klobuchar from the first time I saw her on the judiciary panel for the Kavanaugh hearing. I thought, she would make an amazing president. I was thrilled to see her enter the race, and I am happy that she is bringing the party closer together by suspending her campaign.

I hope she is part of the new democratic administration in some big way.

I respect Amy. Do not agree with her ideas about our not being able to afford universal health care, but I love how well prepared and knowledgeable she is. I had concerns about her compromising too much on issues important to me like Universal Health Accessible higher education and etc. I think the bloated military budget should be cut to help our people.
Amy was an amazing candidate in terms of competence.

I've always liked her.

And neither do you, empty boasts aside. What's happened to Bernie in the last 24 hours is the political equivalent to the baptism scene in The Godfather.

We stand a good chance to be united in this fight for humanity. Every candidate, including Bernie Sanders, has worked their heart out. We must meet this election with overwhelming numbers and resolve. Seems like just about everyone agrees defeating Trump is the last best hope for freedom.

They seem to be running in the same lane. Except Warren is the more gracious of the two.

Wouldnt that be something!

too sad realizing that my country is so backward.
Kudos to Klobuchar, a true patriot. Wonder what the race would have been like if Bernie had acknowledged that he had his race in 2016 and stayed home this round. Like Hillary did, for instance.
soon the last remaining woman in the race will be erased. i don't think it will change in my lifetime and that's why i am so, so sad right now.

to hear that she has made the decision before Super Tuesday.

Watch her! She may be the next Vice President. I think that would be a terrific choice, frankly.

She's an excellent Senator and would make a great addition to Biden's cabinet, maybe AG if he picks Harris as VP, or even for the VP spot herself. I do have to say I'd prefer Harris as VP for the sake of diversity and the future of the party.

Amy is a good Senator though and her timing isn't awful. I'd have rather that she end it at NV, giving Biden an even bigger boost in SC, or after tomorrow so Bernie doesn't scoop up her delegates, but not my choice.

He is the one who is taking overwhelmingly from Biden, whereas Buttigieg and Klobuchar are taking more evenly from Sanders and Biden.

I would just prefer it if he dropped out before Super Tuesday.

I don't think he will pick up too many delegates. But when his vote gets reallocated it will go equally to Sanders and Biden. Or it Bernie is leading in a given state then I believe it will go disproportionately to him. If he drops out then I expect most of that vote to go to Biden.

He isn't any ballots until then. But, even though he says he's in it until the end, I doubt that is true at all.

Of one thing I'm sure: He will not endorse Bernie Sanders. Which leaves just one candidate to endorse.

I predict that, by Thursday, we have a two-person race.

The only question is whether Tulsi decides to hang in the race.

Kobuchar had some policy differences with me so not my candidate but I like her personally and I certainly think she had the goods to succeed as president. She was my second choice.

but I’m really glad she’s doing this now, because it will throw her supporters behind Joe for tomorrow.

Two moderates with two really intelligent moves in the last two days.

Go Joe!!

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I really think she could have taken trump on and beat him.

Amy and Warren were my next to picks. I have now decided, before the Washington State primaries, Biden is the one we need, and I have already sent my ballet in.

We need to come together and get rid of trump, and that is more important than anything else. I think Joe is the person with the best chance. I also hope to see a VP Kamala Harris, but I would settle for her as AG also.

No matter what, vote blue!

This is really good news.