Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBERNIE SANDERS LEADS THE DEMOCRATIC 2020 PACK, NOW HE'S COMING FOR THE FOX NEWS CROWD
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Sanders also knows that he offers an alternative to Americans who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 because they felt forgotten disregarded by those who make policy in Washington. Trump knows this too, which is why hes worked so hard to vilify socialism ahead of 2020. But by drawing attention to socialism, the president is unwittingly also drawing attention to his potential presidential contender.
In an attempt to appeal to some on the right who might be averse to yet curious about socialism, Sanders agreed to participate in a town hall on Fox News on April 15. The decision riled a number of his Democratic colleagues who view the channel as a right-wing propaganda outlet.
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Questions about Sanderss age continue, and if Joe Biden does enter the race, Sanders will soon face new competition. But right now, hes banking on being the only candidate who can meet and beat Trump on the presidents own terms.
In precisely the way Donald Trump has emboldened the right, Bernie will be a huge movement builder for the left if he is president, said Meagan Day, a prominent socialist activist and writer, at a Democratic Socialists of America conference last month. Trump understands the propaganda value of his actions very well. I would contend that not only does Bernie understand it too, but he actually has much better intuition and instincts about this than Donald Trump does.
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-2020-fox-news-1389215
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Oh wait!! He'll release 'em next week... nevermind!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)For some, NOTHING Bernie does will EVER be good enough... we all know that's true, so please don't try to deny it.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Spot on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Too late, Bernie!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)is there will be a 52.58% chance that it will be before the 15th.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)That's what it means to be the Trump of the left. Others can beat Trump too, but for them it's asymetrical warfare.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denverbill
(11,489 posts)What I think many moderate DU'ers and others fail to realize is that you have to energize the left. Bernie will energize the left. Many other candidates will alienate them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hurl
(938 posts)This seems true, and I think it will very soon cost women their bodily autonomy, among many other things. Because a significant number of people on the left have to be "energized" or else they either won't participate or vote third-party to send a message, we have Trump and the Republicans packing the courts that will impact women and the rest of us for a generation.
Had these people thought more about long-term consequences to others rather than their own need to feel energized, basic things like reproductive choice and the rule of law would not be in nearly as much jeopardy as they are now.
This need to be energized has proved very costly.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,536 posts)Why would other candidates alienate the Left?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
allgood33
(1,584 posts)So many of of my left friends were almost giddy to NOT vote for Hillary. They tried to talk me into sitting it out...NO WAY!!
I am not able to erase the memory how it felt to hear that Hillary had lost. The numbers only made it worse. In Philly, my home town, some BLM members actually celebrated her loss. I will never understand it or forget it.
I WILL VOTE FOR WHOMEVER IS OUR NOMINEE with enthusiasm for some.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)The Newsweek article you link to cherrypicks facts throughout.
For instance, its Morning Cosult poll reference links to an Intercept article whose very biased headline focuses on Bernie having the most support among Hispanic voters. Even more than Biden, supposedly, according to that poll, for that one group.
The article's bias is undermined by the graph that's included, which shows Biden leading Sanders among members of every other group they polled:
Female (Biden over Sanders 34-25)
Male (33-25)
Black (36-25)
Total among Democratic primary voters (35-25)
Early primary state voters (37-28)
But hey! In that one poll, Bernie led Joe among Hispanics 33-24, so that's what the articles harps on.
That Newsweek article also cites an Emerson poll and cherrypicks again there, showing Sanders leading Biden in MA...though that same poll also showed Biden beating Trump by 10 points more than Sanders would, which meant mixed results for Sanders from the poll, a fact his devotees seem unable to see.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)I don't believe Joe will run.
I could be wrong but that's what I believe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,413 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Theres a huge, and likely carefully coordinated effort to push the front runner meme here and on social media with no real data to back it up beyond a lot of money he was going to raise anyway. He had plenty of money last time around as well. Am I supposed to be impressed?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)If he ever does run, that will be put to the test.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tirebiter
(2,537 posts)Thats a good start on getting the AF of L.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...hes not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SHRED
(28,136 posts)And he's boosting FOX ratings.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)to attack real Democrats. So what else is new?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(14,972 posts)Because if so: I think I have spotted a wee problem...
And if not: f--king adjectives how do they work?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)not just a bunch of dotty old people. They are people who have supported racism, have no problem with sexual assault or caging people in camps. They are willing to look aside and support policies that allowed the theft of trillions of dollars for the rich from working people and deny healthcare to the ill and disabled.
Sanders himself seems to me to dabble in some of those ideas. Providing them with an alternate ideologue would mean aligning with their beliefs because they sure will not abandon their cultural values. Hatred of others for immutable qualities is not resolved by economic stylings. The racists in that viewer base have worked for decades to achieve a power base. This is not just people mesmerized by a cult leader with a few enforcers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,275 posts)Thank you for delving deeper into what the faux crowd is all about after all these years of brainwashing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Maybe less than half.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)but he is not announced yet.. and he will be announcing pretty soon.. Senator Sanders has some real issues to deal with and he is getting vetted for the first time.. going on FOX hoping that crazed group will not go after him is a fools mission.. just saying..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden