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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:46 PM Apr 2019

Very recent comment on DU...

That strong, enthusiastic woman are not for Biden or any male candidate. That these strong woman won’t get out and stump for men any longer.

Now, I consider myself not only strong and a woman but a huge liberal political junky.

I’m asking other strong women to tell us why you support Joe Biden.

If you are a man supporting a woman candidate, I welcome your comments, please.

In either case, please, no bashing or arguments “against” anyone.

Thanks.

Edit: I realize I made the field narrow. Thanks for the more general male candidate debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Very recent comment on DU... (Original Post) LakeArenal Apr 2019 OP
I do not buy that. True Blue American Apr 2019 #1
Absolutely SouthernIrish Apr 2019 #24
This strong, enthusiastic woman will *fanatically* support anyone who can crush Trump, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #2
I love (most) of our female candidates. I'm thrilled they are in the race. I do not discount support hlthe2b Apr 2019 #3
I'm female, and I support any Dem who supports women Freddie Apr 2019 #4
Was that comment made by a man or woman? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #5
It was a woman LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #8
I'm male and only have 1 criteria for selecting my candidate, watoos Apr 2019 #6
Question: Isn't supporting a man who hasn't even declared his candidacy Demit Apr 2019 #7
It would be, if it wasn't a virtual certainly that he he would be declaring LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #9
Not anymore than smearing a man before he has declared. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #12
I see you edited your OP after I posted. Demit Apr 2019 #14
I edited to add, thanks for the the more general scope of the topic to male candidacy... LakeArenal Apr 2019 #15
Yes, and you changed the word "candidates" to "anyone" while you were at it. Demit Apr 2019 #18
I did not. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #19
Read carefully the edit history of this thread. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #21
I'm currently supporting the candidate I think is most likely to beat Trump. MineralMan Apr 2019 #10
+∞ LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #11
I will enthusiastically support any candidate happybird Apr 2019 #13
"strong, enthusiastic woman are not for Biden" handmade34 Apr 2019 #16
Who can beat trump and who would make the best president and who I like are ALL the same Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #17
WRT the primaries mcar Apr 2019 #20
As a strong woman I find the assumption that I only support women to be sexist Indygram Apr 2019 #22
"Reverse sexism." Is that like "reverse racism"? ehrnst Apr 2019 #31
I bet everyone on here voted for a woman named Hillary in 2016 Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #23
Whose idea is that? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #32
I'm not against Joe! Love him. I would be proud to have him as my President. Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #25
I'm male and I'm with Pete True Dough Apr 2019 #26
Joe is not my first choice, but I will support him enthusiastically Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #27
Male here currently deciding between Warren, Harris and Buttigieg. LonePirate Apr 2019 #28
I've Never Understood Why Democrats Would Have a Litmus Test-We've Nominated.... Stallion Apr 2019 #29
That's what I've said. .. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #30
 

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
1. I do not buy that.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:51 PM
Apr 2019

Strong women make decisions based on facts.

I admire Joe. Am also a Swalwell fan. Both are very intelligent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SouthernIrish

(512 posts)
24. Absolutely
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:26 PM
Apr 2019

My two favorite so far.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
2. This strong, enthusiastic woman will *fanatically* support anyone who can crush Trump,
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:54 PM
Apr 2019

whether male or female. I'm still undecided; I want to wait until everyone has declared, released their tax returns, and has a chance to shine (or not) in the debates. I can enthusiastically support a male candidate. That could be Joe Biden; it could be Beto or Buttigieg or Booker or Inslee or someone else. I can enthusiastically support a female candidate. That could be Harris, Warren, Klobuchar or someone else. I want to see what all of them are made of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
3. I love (most) of our female candidates. I'm thrilled they are in the race. I do not discount support
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:55 PM
Apr 2019

for (most) of the male candidates, however. I remain undecided. And, I have had decades to show my own propensity for "strength" and staunch feminism.

I will be out there hitting the streets and phones for our candidate and I'm ok with nearly any of them as long as they can take down Trump, work quickly and efficiently to reverse the damage to our government and our institutions, and honor the core of our progressive/liberal/Democratic ideals.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Freddie

(9,266 posts)
4. I'm female, and I support any Dem who supports women
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:55 PM
Apr 2019

While I’d love to see a woman president in my lifetime, I will happily support Biden because I know he’s on our side.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. Was that comment made by a man or woman?
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:03 PM
Apr 2019

Seems like a foolish comment to make.

I would say with respect to that comment, some are trying to harm Biden in any way possible and that includes by trying to demoralize his supporters. Just yesterday an Info Wars video was used here to attack Biden. Not in a way to show what the right was going to do to him. Actual support and promotion of the video itself. Biden has a certain group starting to become unhinged and the attacks often don't make sense, simply because of how hard they are trying.

As far as my thoughts, I do have gender bias in my vote. Women get preference. That does not mean I will only vote for a woman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. I'm male and only have 1 criteria for selecting my candidate,
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:06 PM
Apr 2019

our candidate needs to be as tough as nails to beat Trump. So far I have nailed my choices down to 3 women and 1 man. I don't even give a shit about policy at this stage, my only concern is that our candidate has to stand toe to toe with Trump and knock him out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
7. Question: Isn't supporting a man who hasn't even declared his candidacy
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:07 PM
Apr 2019

tantamount to making arguments against the candidates?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
9. It would be, if it wasn't a virtual certainly that he he would be declaring
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:22 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
12. Not anymore than smearing a man before he has declared.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:33 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
14. I see you edited your OP after I posted.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:50 PM
Apr 2019

You changed 'no bashing or making arguments “against” candidates' to a very different 'no bashing or arguments “against” anyone'.

It's really not kosher to change the parameters of your question without acknowledging the fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
15. I edited to add, thanks for the the more general scope of the topic to male candidacy...
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:53 PM
Apr 2019

I don't know what you are talking about...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
18. Yes, and you changed the word "candidates" to "anyone" while you were at it.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:36 PM
Apr 2019

I read carefully before I answer a post.

I asked "Isn't supporting a man who hasn't even declared his candidacy tantamount to making arguments against the candidates?"

Your answer— "Not any more than smearing a man before he has declared"—wouldn't make sense if you merely meant arguments against generic or random anyones.

Your answer didn't make sense anyway. How is criticizing (or, as you would have it, "smearing" ) a person making an argument against other, unidentified persons?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
19. I did not.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:47 PM
Apr 2019

Edited to add: I didn’t think enough of your post to edit it for you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
21. Read carefully the edit history of this thread.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:54 PM
Apr 2019

Be sure to respond after reading original post. Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,313 posts)
10. I'm currently supporting the candidate I think is most likely to beat Trump.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:26 PM
Apr 2019

In 2016, I supported a woman, Hillary Clinton, for the same reason. For me, the sex of the candidate is irrelevant. It is ability and capability of winning that I care about, and only that. I will do the same in 2020, supporting the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be.

I do not choose political candidates based on gender or sex. That would be stupid. Both of my state's senators are women, as is my House representative. I have supported all of them in their campaigns.

What we need is a candidate who can win. That's the primary criterion for me in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

happybird

(4,608 posts)
13. I will enthusiastically support any candidate
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

who can kick the tar out of Dump. I don't give a crap if they are male, female, or a freakin' golden retriever.

That should be the #1 priority for all of us. We need to draw a firm, decisive, unassailable line under Dump's reign of terror in 2020. It's all that matters.

I like many of our candidates a lot, but think several of my personal favs stand no chance of winning against Dump in the general. Thems the breaks. I hope they get Cabinet positions or other roles in the new Administration.

We must be realistic or we'll have 4 more years of a raging dumpster fire and horrid judicial appointments. Good luck protecting and advancing progressive policies and ideas then.

Forgot to add: I'm a woman. I'd love to vote for the first woman President, but I just don't think it's gonna happen this time around.

As of right now, Joe Biden is the only one with broad enough appeal and the name recognition to pull in the number of votes needed for a decisive victory. And I like Joe, so that's a bonus. But, it's still early. The debates might be a game changer. We'll see what happens.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
16. "strong, enthusiastic woman are not for Biden"
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

I call bullshit on that comment... strong, smart, enthusiastic women will support the best candidate to right this Country as soon as possible... I would love to see a woman President, I desperately wanted Hillary to be President... right now I am supporting the person I think has the best chance to win, the experience to get to work done quickly and the wisdom to do the right thing when needed...


I consider myself a progressive liberal, strong, smart and pragmatic when necessary for the good of the whole


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Who can beat trump and who would make the best president and who I like are ALL the same
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:32 PM
Apr 2019

for me. So I am lucky.

To pick someone just because you like them and the person probably can’t win seems crazy. We won’t survive another term

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,333 posts)
20. WRT the primaries
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:52 PM
Apr 2019

We have several strong women candidates who are being virtually ignored by the media, except for negative reporting. Meanwhile, the male candidates are getting lots of attention, mostly positive.

The women have well-thought-out policy ideas, strong backgrounds and resumes and are raising good amounts. Remember last week or so when the media spin on Harris' $12 million haul was "boy that makes Mayor Pete's $7 million look good!" (Nothing against Mayor Pete.)

All things being relatively equal, I will support a woman candidate in the primary. I also will campaign vigorously for whomever is the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indygram

(2,113 posts)
22. As a strong woman I find the assumption that I only support women to be sexist
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

I support who can beat Trump and their gender is irrelevant.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
31. "Reverse sexism." Is that like "reverse racism"?
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 07:43 AM
Apr 2019

I heard a lot of that from my great uncle about anyone who voted for Obama.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
23. I bet everyone on here voted for a woman named Hillary in 2016
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:18 PM
Apr 2019

Including those who support male candidates now. This idea that the Dems HAVE to nominate a woman this time is ridiculous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. Whose idea is that? (nt)
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 07:44 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
25. I'm not against Joe! Love him. I would be proud to have him as my President.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:34 PM
Apr 2019

Right now I'm with Kamala but Joe Biden is probably my second choice. I'd love to see them both on the ticket.

Also: "Hair-sniff-gate" is a load of bullshit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
26. I'm male and I'm with Pete
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:50 PM
Apr 2019

Kamala would be my #2 choice. That said, if Pete is able to defy the odds and win the primary, I think he needs to pick someone with considerable federal political experience as his running-mate. Maybe Elizabeth Warren?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
27. Joe is not my first choice, but I will support him enthusiastically
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:59 PM
Apr 2019

and I am a strong woman

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
28. Male here currently deciding between Warren, Harris and Buttigieg.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019

I am focused on a mix of policies and what I consider to be electability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
29. I've Never Understood Why Democrats Would Have a Litmus Test-We've Nominated....
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

an African American and a Woman for President in last 3 elections over 12 years. 98% of us have earned the right to select the best candidate available regardless of race, creed, color, sex, religion and sexual orientation. (Constitution discriminates against national origin and age to a degree) If anything this party is discriminating against the old, white male over the last 14 years-but most of us have voted for the non-traditional candidate for many national, state and local elections. I'm voting for the best candidate PERIOD-and then I'll vote for the Democratic nominee in November 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
30. That's what I've said. ..
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:16 PM
Apr 2019

We can love all the candidates but can only vote for one in the primaries.

Then we can all love the final nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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