Sanders said he wouldn’t accept Bloomberg spending on him on principle. Not good enough for other Ds (not that Sanders is a D)?

I have no issue with him spending his money on that.

Those are things we can completely agree on.

Bloomberg is going to spend his money attacking Trump no matter who the nominee is, and the nominee will have no say in the matter.


Biden doesn't have to talk to Bloomberg at all. Bloomberg is going to run his anti-Trump ads for the next 8 months, doesn't matter what Biden wants.


Your attack line simply doesn't work. You need to let it go.

setting the record straight.

Sore...

Have a fabulous blue wave Day!

Oh, right, they don't count.

maybe the media can grab a few shots.

just like the rest of us peons. Bloomberg can, however, spend as much as he wants through a PAC (whereupon Citizens United and the GOP Supreme Court bite Trump and the GOP on the ass) as long as the PAC doesn't coordinate with the campaign. With that limitation the PAC can do whatever advertising it wants in favor of whoever it wants.

A lot of people have very strong opinions here, based on..................wrong information.

As you point out, not only could Bloomberg not give any candidate more than the $2,800 limit, it is a crime if he were to "coordinate" his campaign spending with another candidate.

What Bloomberg can do, and has said he will do all along, is spend massive amounts of money running ads against Trump. That's a very, very good thing.

Bloomberg said he wouldn't spend the money if a candidate didn't want it.

His billions will be working for the nominee and party INDIRECTLY, no matter what the nominee said.

If Bloomberg decides on his own to form a PAC to buy issue ads or otherwise advocate, he can’t, by law, coordinate with the Biden campaign.

But if he keeps up with the Trump-focused ads and maybe helps down-ballot Dems and a PAC or two, that would be tremendous.

With The Lincoln Project firing devastating salvos from the right...Bloomberg pounding the POTUS from the middle...and Joe and his newfound allies attacking Dirty Don from the left...the USS Trump is gonna go down faster than the RMS Titanic.

When a big blowhard hits a big berg, the berg will always win.

that many were speaking about. Just wanted to emphasize that aside from a limited donation, Biden has no power to “accept” anything from Bloomberg.

People in other camps are going to misrepresent this (as they did with Buttigieg). We have to be precise.

So, I’ll take what ever help he’ll give us.

It was clear from the beginning what he was doing. And now all those offices set up with better paid workers than any other campaign can now work for the party.

Mike does not need the money and can do what he wants. We all know what Mike wants. he made it clear!

Is a friend of mine.

I doubt any rehabilitation or revisionism will come into play (unless we force ourselves to see it as such); as stage hands rarely make or break a stage performance, and are even more rarely, considered "DU's best friend, evah."

And I’m glad he’ll be funding anti-Trump ads going forward.

Give me a damn break. That pig ain't going to fly. Do you want to do a background check on all donors? Bernie gets donations from bonifide socialists. Yes. I hope Mike donates millions to Joe. He has been effective savaging Trump without goung after our Candidates. Sanders has been directly assaulting Democrats. Enough with the class envy. Mike worked, made a shit ton of money and is helping Democrats across country. He's doing alot more for our party than Nina Turner or Michael Moore. Wanna beat Trump? You need money. No one is perfect.

I came to terms with the “no one is perfect” angle months ago.

That in itself is huge

However, Bloomberg can run as many issue ads as he likes without anyone's approval. I've been looking at his ads. Most of them could be converted to other purposes with just some minor editing. If he does continue to advertise and focus on things that help Biden, he will have a major effect on the general election.

But, any help he gives to help elect any of the Dems in the GE is welcome.

How interesting...

I’m not attacking Mike. I questioning how people can express hatred for Mike one day then welcome his money the next.

"I questioning how people can express hatred for Mike one day then welcome his money the next..."

In much the same way I hated a trim carpenter I once worked with, yet used his tools when the job called for it.

Pretty simply stuff.... unless of course we invest it with biased complexity that exists nowhere but our own imaginations.

The hypocrisy involved in hating Bloomberg one day and then loving him when he's no longer a threat--and the speed at which that shift was made--calls into question the character and ethics of the person making the sudden shift.

No?

-Laelth

This seems more the case than ever nowadays.

Link to tweet

Bloomberg can spend as much money as he wants to help Biden as long as he doesn't coordinate with Joe's campaign. In fact, it would be illegal for Mike to contribute more than a relatively small amount if he did.

Based on the ads he made for himself while a candidate and the barbs that he has exchanged with Trump Mike doesn't need any help attacking Trump...he's actually better at it than Biden is anyway.

Personally, I welcome every cent Bloomberg will indirectly contribute to Joe's campaign and directly donate for the down-ballot candidates. Man, I cannot believe how fast this field consolidated.

That's not bankrolling. I hope he puts money behind down ticket candidates.

Joe Biden or really anyone else in the race (besides Bernie). I also think he would have been a very competent President, had he gotten that far. So there ya go. Switching back to undecided, which was where I started a month ago.

My nephews hammered me a few weeks ago about him. Numerous threats about 'you have black nephews and no children - do you want us to bring you Vodka in the nursing home?"

An ally of convenience.

I have not forgotten his past support of Republicans,the cost it has had to the country and I trust him as far as I can comfortably spit a rat.

...an antidote for Citizens United piling on the money for the other side.

During WWII Churchill said, "If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."


Trump has invaded the America that I love. We should welcome Bloomberg's support. We are going to need all the help we can get to unseat the sitting bastard. Hopefully Sanders will come to the conclusion that it is time for him to do the same, sooner rather than later.

With a united front, I am beginning to believe that we may well pull it off.

Never.

messaging. He has gotten where he is based on his excellent reputation, and his relationships that he has built over the years.

But he's going to need messaging going forward.
A poster here yesterday asked, "Ok, what does Biden stand for?" We can all answer, but I bet the wider world could not. And we need them to be able to.

Bloomberg excells at messaging. Joe will be unbeatable with Bloomberg cash and organization behind him.

And the stakes here are, literally, the survival of the rule of law and our democracy.

So have I EVER considered Bloomberg an enemy? Hell no!