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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Kali

(55,019 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:12 PM Mar 2020

so tired of old straight white men

Sanders did help move the party to a more progressive stance last time, but I believe Biden has a better chance than him of beating the orange asshole.

but...I am getting old, will I ever get to vote for somebody I am actually enthusiastic about?

yes normal will be a thrill, yes Biden is a good experienced candidate and I do like Jill. I may well get more enthusiasm as things go along but I am so disappointed in this country. between the too-large chunk of idiots that think something like drumpf is worth anything other than a joke, and people who can't or won't vote for a good younger or female candidate with some new perspectives...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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so tired of old straight white men (Original Post) Kali Mar 2020 OP
I was enthusiastic about Obama countingbluecars Mar 2020 #1
bernie should drop out and give warren a path. mopinko Mar 2020 #2
Frankly if Biden was as smart as Warren, he'd offer her the VP job. It would unite the party. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #5
Dear lord. He is incredibly smart. She has intelligence in her field and he has his in his, multiple emmaverybo Mar 2020 #14
I propose it because Biden is smart, though there are many factors in political calculations. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #19
she didn't even win MA Kali Mar 2020 #6
She can't even win her state jimfields33 Mar 2020 #26
Joe's VP nominee will likely be a black woman AGeddy Mar 2020 #3
I hope so. Kali Mar 2020 #9
Oh yes. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #15
Even tho I am an EW supporter if Biden chooses Harris for VP she would be able to glide into the in2herbs Mar 2020 #18
My wife feels the same way... rzemanfl Mar 2020 #4
... Kali Mar 2020 #11
Lol.. whathehell Mar 2020 #16
I'm planning on hanging on long enuf to see an AOC/Mayor Pete ticket. nt in2herbs Mar 2020 #7
Yes.. It is a double whammy. Against any other foe, I might be inconsolable, but Trump? hlthe2b Mar 2020 #8
I agree 100% Kali Mar 2020 #12
Take heart. jcmaine72 Mar 2020 #10
true, and it started out nicely diverse Kali Mar 2020 #13
The nominee will have to pick someone TheCowsCameHome Mar 2020 #17
Because there are many factors more important than diversity Amishman Mar 2020 #20
depends on how the "best option" is determined Kali Mar 2020 #21
You wonder whether you will get to vote for. whathehell Mar 2020 #22
yeah, sorry about that. Kali Mar 2020 #23
No problem, thanks. whathehell Mar 2020 #24
Did You Vote for Obama? Hilliary? Stallion Mar 2020 #25
I voted enthusiasm in last 3 elections, kozar Mar 2020 #27
 

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
1. I was enthusiastic about Obama
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020

twice. Look at the makeup of Democrats in Congress. The Democrats do fine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mopinko

(70,205 posts)
2. bernie should drop out and give warren a path.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020

today. she has a good path on the next few tuesdays.
and it becomes a productive discussion instead of a shit show.

if he cared about policy, he would get out of the way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
5. Frankly if Biden was as smart as Warren, he'd offer her the VP job. It would unite the party. . . nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
14. Dear lord. He is incredibly smart. She has intelligence in her field and he has his in his, multiple
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

areas, Believe me, Obama would not have chosen him for his FP creds and advice if he weren’t as smart as Warren in his field of expertise, despite not being an academic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
19. I propose it because Biden is smart, though there are many factors in political calculations. . . nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kali

(55,019 posts)
6. she didn't even win MA
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020


otherwise, yes I think the progressive "pull" would be better with her now than Sanders. I don't see him doing that though.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jimfields33

(15,948 posts)
26. She can't even win her state
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:02 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
3. Joe's VP nominee will likely be a black woman
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:16 PM
Mar 2020

And she will be the "President in Waiting" for Joe, at his age. I think that will excite people.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
18. Even tho I am an EW supporter if Biden chooses Harris for VP she would be able to glide into the
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

presidential responsibilities in 4 years and hold that office for two terms. Or she can start as VP and then be appointed to the USSC and then Biden can name another VP, who will then hold the Pres office for two terms. Amy would not be my VP choice. Stacey would not be my VP choice, but surely there's a place for her in the administration.

Regardless of who is elected if they do not expand the USSC we will be spinning our wheels and change will not happen. Biden has said he is against expanding the USSC. We'll find out whether that's true or whether his position is a campaign secret.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
4. My wife feels the same way...
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:17 PM
Mar 2020

about me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
7. I'm planning on hanging on long enuf to see an AOC/Mayor Pete ticket. nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,352 posts)
8. Yes.. It is a double whammy. Against any other foe, I might be inconsolable, but Trump?
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

I'd support almost anyone I thought could rid us of that scourge. Fortunately, I think Biden is an inherently decent man.

We must just survive. We might see a woman assume the Presidency yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
10. Take heart.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

Demography is destiny. This will be one of the last elections ever where the choices are so limited and devoid of diversity. It's inevitable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kali

(55,019 posts)
13. true, and it started out nicely diverse
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

but here we are. again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
17. The nominee will have to pick someone
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

I am betting it will be a woman

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
20. Because there are many factors more important than diversity
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:31 PM
Mar 2020

It's great when the best option overall ends up being of a diverse background, but it shouldn't be a requirement

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kali

(55,019 posts)
21. depends on how the "best option" is determined
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

so yeah, sometimes it needs to be a requirement, just to knock down those hidden (and not so hidden) barriers

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
22. You wonder whether you will get to vote for.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:53 PM
Mar 2020

someone you were "actually enthusiastic about"...I was quite
enthused about voting for Barack Obama, weren't you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kali

(55,019 posts)
23. yeah, sorry about that.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:59 PM
Mar 2020

drumpf may actually be doing what he set out to do - erasing every trace of Obama. yes I was so amazed and proud that we elected him. it seems so long ago and far away now doesn't it? one step forward, three back.

I was just a bit depressed this morning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
24. No problem, thanks.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:43 PM
Mar 2020

It DOES seem like forever since Obama's presidency. Don't be depressed, though..It's clear that Diversity has made BIG strides..Could we have imagined a gay man even RUNNING for president ten years ago, let alone doing as well as Pete has?...I'm disappointed about Elizabeth Warren, but I think -- in THIS election, especially -- people are afraid to "take chances"". They see the spectre HRC and think "A woman can't win" and then, again, she has progressive policies, another "chancey" proposition for a very nervous electorate.

We may have to wait until the particular emergency of Trump has passed before we see a real "change" election. That said, I'm confident of it's coming.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
25. Did You Vote for Obama? Hilliary?
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:00 PM
Mar 2020

in Texas yesterday I voted for a black US Senator, a black US House Representative and a rainbow of other representatives or judges

I think this Old White Man has voted for more "minorities" than "old white men" for several elections

Voting for the best qualified candidate should be color-blind and no Democrat should take that criticism based upon our record of diversity

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kozar

(2,127 posts)
27. I voted enthusiasm in last 3 elections,
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

I too, would like to be enthused again, but I guess my fear for the life of our country this time chose me to go to Joe. The first thing we need right now is someone who can step in and fix this downward spiral our country is in.


Koz

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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