Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders claims Buttigieg, Klobuchar dropped out only b/c establishment "put a great deal of pressure
on them.
Sigh. BS.
Mediaite article with video:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-on-super-tuesday-results-establishment-put-a-great-deal-of-pressure-on-buttigieg-klobuchar-to-drop-out/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)C'mon Bernie. Stop "saying the thing that is not."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,863 posts)A couple of menacing-looking guys wearing top hats and monocles came to their door and said, "We're from The Establishment. Nice place ya got here. Be a shame if something happened to it."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Apparently the Sanders camp doesn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,871 posts)with slim chances to win were going to stay in forever? When does that ever happenbesides Tulsi Gabbard of course?
But then again, he still thinks America will elect a socialist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)If she shows up to a rally wearing a monocle we'll know it happened.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,340 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,863 posts)Looks to me like it's the voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)as much as it is a certain mindset some people have?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,126 posts)The Biden people wanted them out and likely rewarded them in some way to get them to leave the race before ST when they would have very likely taken some delegates.
I suspect that Pete will be VP as a result of that deal.
It is logical that there was pressure on them to leave.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)No point in whining.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,126 posts)don't really like either of the two who are left, mostly due to how their supporters behave.
But, the suggestion that there was pressure isn't an out there theory either.
Just because either the Biden cohort says it or the Sanders cohort says it doesn't mean that the other side needs to get all pissy about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)That demeans them, their independence and their critical and analytical reasoning abilities.
Democratic party is not the Gambino family.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,863 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)think this is an actual primary and not a Sander coronation...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,846 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)feel this is a bridge too far for the establishment...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,712 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,871 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RDavisJ1
(52 posts)Pete made his decision and was on his way back to South Bend and hadn't spoken with Biden.
I realize that conspiracy theory is far more entertaining than the truth, but it is what it is.
How do I know this? I was a part of the digital response team for Pete.
Pete did the math. There was no path for him. Instead of being a spoiler candidate, Pete did exactly what he had been saying, the party first. It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that by staying in the race stole votes from others. We had been working on Sunday to prep and were working when we found out Pete was dropping out. We asked the question, "Had he talked to Biden?" No. He hasn't. Pete dropped out solely for the health and benefit of the party.
Immediately the conspiracy theories were running that it was because he "got something." He had no assurances of any type before dropping out.
I don't believe Pete will be VP. I believe the VP will be a woman of color.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(51,095 posts)Pete has integrity. I don't think Pete has enough to be VP or SOS. But there are other high level positions that would better fit him. Maybe Chief of Staff.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,638 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(51,095 posts)Or understand the numbers game regarding the primaries. Pete is smart and can do the math. Campaigns also do their own polling and likely saw the wind not blowing the right way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)Thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)of doing and the DNC "pressuring them"! omg!
They saw the best way to help Democracy was to drop out nd endorse the person who will be the best one to beat trump. They're real .. care more about their country and Planet then their own egos.
Aloha, sprinkleen
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)Yah, berners insulted their intelligence by this crass remark.
A pity it turning into this scene again.
💜🙏
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)It is not attractive to a majority of voters.
You could have made it attractive to all Democrats if you had listened and modified your policies a bit. But listening and adjusting is not in you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,072 posts)its certain aspects of his personality such as rigidity, refusal to coalition build, refusal to rein in his most toxic surrogates and followers, etc. Someone without those problems could have sold his policies much better. Warren did but she was kneecapped by misogyny and some bad campaign advice and budget issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,598 posts)just like the president said
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,411 posts)of multiple candidates with similar positions, taking votes away from each other, that it would be far prudent to unite behind one candidate?
We are now going one on one Bernie, between you and Joe, and if Joe prevails, what excuse are you going to use then
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,871 posts)so it was time to stop the naive egoism of a candidate who would guarantee a second term for trump before it was too late.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)Trump tweets yesterday...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,846 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Everyone is against him. Too paranoid.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,016 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Sanders is always telling me and others that we are too stupid and gullible to think for ourselves - unless we are choosing him.
By this reasoning, only those who support Bernie are intelligent and thoughtful. The rest of us are morons.
Not a great way to win the hearts and minds....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)It doesnt matter even if its true. Did they say anything about Bernie having a ceiling with voters that he cannot pass? Or anything t about him underperforming everywhere? What about him attacking the Democratic Party right before an election?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RDavisJ1
(52 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)no more than 30 percent of the vote. Pete and Amy saw they could not win, and unlike Bernie decided not to divide the party. If Bernie had any grasp of teamwork he might understand why.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)smooth path all figured out..
Only the unthinkable electric bolt out of the blue happened and there didn't seem to be a plan B.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fla Dem
(23,760 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bitterross
(4,066 posts)If the DNC "Establishment" put pressure on Pete and Amy to drop out and support the DEMOCRAT who's most likely to win the DEMOCRATIC nomination then they were doing their job. Sanders is not a Democrat and he is openly hostile to the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
drray23
(7,637 posts)How politics work ? The idea is to convince other people and form coalitions. There is nothing nefarious about it. If you run for president and leader of your party, you better be able to make political alliances.
It has nothing to do with establishment, everything to do with being a leader.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
karynnj
(59,504 posts)They clearly saw they had no 2020 path. They are both young. Leaving as they did - they left on a positive note and will both have a role in the General election campaign. They left with Biden praising them and their campaigns.
What was the alternative? It is very likely that both would have been out 2 days later or within the next 2 weeks. Sanders expected to get an insurmountable delegate lead by getting 30 to 35 % of the vote with many moderate votes on SuperTuesday going to below threshold candidates. There was talk of him getting the lion's share - if not all of California's vote doing just that. If many of us on DU read of that possibility, certainly the candidates and their teams did. Not to mention - Sanders' surrogates were calling for Warren to drop out to help him before ST.
It was in the self interest of Amy and Pete to do what they did. (Especially for Pete, who is not a sitting Senator like Amy.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,692 posts)and save our Planet!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)and Klobuchar were pushed out by the billionaires? I am so confused. Sanders is confusing me so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,061 posts)The rout tonight will be another decisive rejection of his campaign. He needs to close up shop after tonight. I would not be surprised if he chooses not to endorse Biden. I get the feeling this selfish man thinks he's somehow entitled to be the nominee. No sir, you only win IF voters decide they want you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Don't look at me -- I've been telling y'all for three years that when Sanders started to lose he was going to undermine the credibility of the party (again)...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whistler162
(11,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden