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Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 03:38 PM Apr 2019

Washington Post-What the media doesn't get about Joe Biden

While I am undecided, I do think that Joe Biden is the most electable candidate.




Biden has been in the public eye since the 1970s, and unlike Hillary Clinton, who claimed the public never really knew her, voters feel like they know Biden pretty darn well. Many voters don’t remember anything before his vice presidency, his demonstrably warm relationship with President Barack Obama, his remarkable dignity after the death of his beloved son Beau, and his emotional goodbye to the late senator John McCain. He has established a level of emotional intimacy with voters that few politicians attain. He’s the chatty next-door neighbor, the avuncular relative and the co-worker who remembers everyone’s birthday.....

They are also unlikely to decide he’s not progressive enough. Being vice president to the most progressive president we’ve had (including his role in seemingly pushing Obama forward on gay marriage) has its advantages. Moreover, the media periodically lapses into the delusion that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) are representative of the entire party.

The recent Monmouth poll of Iowa voters is instructive: Biden not only leads, but has a 78 percent favorability rating and support from the kind of Democrats who show up in primaries — moderate, older voters. Biden has support from 44 percent of seniors and 35 percent of self-described moderate and conservative Democrats. Among lower income/working-class voters whom Democrats have been desperate to attract, he gets 38 percent. Those kind of voters — not self-identified socialists, not Bernie activists on social media — are numerous and dependable voters. And they’re not exactly the kind to punish him for hugging people in distress.

The most important hurdle for Biden and for his competitors will be convincing voters he can beat President Trump. Right now, Biden has a big advantage. “While issue positions are important to Iowa Democrats, the overwhelming majority (64%) prefer to have a nominee who would be strong against Trump even if they disagree with that candidate on most issues,” the pollsters found. “If they were forced to choose, just 24% say they would favor a candidate who they are aligned with on the issues even if that person would have a hard time beating Trump. Biden garners more support among voters who prioritize beating Trump (33%) than he does among those who are looking for issue alignment (15%).”

I agree with the premise of this piece. I know Joe Biden and I like Joe Biden. The polling indicates that Joe is the most electable candidate.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Washington Post-What the media doesn't get about Joe Biden (Original Post) Gothmog Apr 2019 OP
That's it in a nutshell. WheelWalker Apr 2019 #1
Rec now, bookmark for the full article JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #2
Yes - Biden is likable and electable FakeNoose Apr 2019 #3
The article is dead on...people LIKE Biden BluegrassDem Apr 2019 #4
...and i wanna see him punch trump in the nose on stage! samnsara Apr 2019 #17
That would be fun to watch and could happen Gothmog Apr 2019 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #5
No one is surprised BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #8
I am not surprised Gothmog Apr 2019 #10
Kicking trump out of our WH Cha Apr 2019 #6
Totally agree Cha! smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #13
Aloha, Smirky! Cha Apr 2019 #19
Biden is "da man" nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #7
I agree Gothmog Apr 2019 #24
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2019 #9
K&R highplainsdem Apr 2019 #11
K&R brer cat Apr 2019 #12
Keep our eye on the prize: Beat Trump. oasis Apr 2019 #14
Name recognition is YUGE advantage. And already being defined by voters...YUGE. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #15
thats a great article! thanks for sharing. samnsara Apr 2019 #16
First Rule in 2020: VOTE HIM OUT! MineralMan Apr 2019 #18
We have to vote trump out Gothmog Apr 2019 #22
"Democrats see him as family." I suspect some Hortensis Apr 2019 #20
So come on ova to Joe from undecided !?!??! nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #21
Biden's bulldogs give him an edge in 2020 Gothmog Apr 2019 #23
i don't consider electabily. the candidate that generates the most enthusiasm wins. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #26
Also sheshe2 Apr 2019 #27
Kinda like Hubert Humphrey. delisen Apr 2019 #28
 

WheelWalker

(8,956 posts)
1. That's it in a nutshell.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 03:51 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JustAnotherGen

(31,879 posts)
2. Rec now, bookmark for the full article
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 04:39 PM
Apr 2019

Later. Without even taking the deep dive the few paragraphs there pretty much nail it Gothmog.

The thing I will remember and a lot of us will need to remember - the only Americans that win if we tear our candidates apart are the media shareholders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
3. Yes - Biden is likable and electable
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 05:43 PM
Apr 2019

I think he would do well in Pennsylvania and many or most of the Midwestern areas. I'm leaning towards Biden but I'm still listening to the other candidates, so I haven't made a decision yet.

If Joe does become our Democratic candidate I'll be happy to support him and vote for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
4. The article is dead on...people LIKE Biden
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 06:04 PM
Apr 2019

And that's why he's ahead in the polls and why he'll win the nomination barring some calamity. He's a people person. He's a back slapping pol. He's very dignified and graceful. He is everything Trump is not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

samnsara

(17,635 posts)
17. ...and i wanna see him punch trump in the nose on stage!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019

...figuratively of course.....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
25. That would be fun to watch and could happen
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:06 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Gothmog (Original post)

 

Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
10. I am not surprised
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 07:14 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,655 posts)
6. Kicking trump out of our WH
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 06:35 PM
Apr 2019

is the most important issue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. Totally agree Cha!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 07:23 AM
Apr 2019

Nothing matters more right now!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,407 posts)
14. Keep our eye on the prize: Beat Trump.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 08:15 AM
Apr 2019

Biden has what it takes. Solid Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Name recognition is YUGE advantage. And already being defined by voters...YUGE.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 08:37 AM
Apr 2019

Those are two big advantages.

I have concerns. One is that he's run for President more than once before, and never came close to being the nominee. So maybe he's missing something that makes voters go to the poll to vote for him, even though they like and know him.

So, I don't know. But it is very important that he is already defined in voters' eyes (hard for Trump to re-define him), and very important that he's well liked by many voters already.

I also think he's a natural leader. He's not a follower.

All very important qualities.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

samnsara

(17,635 posts)
16. thats a great article! thanks for sharing.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:24 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
18. First Rule in 2020: VOTE HIM OUT!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:10 AM
Apr 2019

Second Rule: See first rule.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
22. We have to vote trump out
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:44 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. "Democrats see him as family." I suspect some
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:57 PM
Apr 2019

conservatives do also, maybe not a favorite uncle, but he's been around most of most American's lives now. I believe a lot of Americans would welcome some warm fuzzies from an elder statesman in these troubled times, and Biden's the only candidate who could meet that demand.

Then there's this that the article points out: 78 percent favorability rating and support from the kind of Democrats who show up in primaries — moderate, older voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
21. So come on ova to Joe from undecided !?!??! nt
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:17 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
23. Biden's bulldogs give him an edge in 2020
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:05 PM
Apr 2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/13/biden-bulldogs-1272931

The two-term vice president has a built-in institutional advantage over his Democratic rivals as he prepares to enter the crowded primary as the presumptive frontrunner in the contest to take on President Donald Trump. Biden has a stable of as many as a dozen senators and still more in the House that are prepared to vouch for him when he inevitably comes under siege.....

Yet no other White House hopeful has such a broad congressional coalition as Biden, who can likely count House members and senators like Doug Jones of Alabama to align with him once he gets in the race. The candidate most closely trailing him in the polls, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), has a fraction of the support in the party establishment that Biden has. Few rose to Sanders’ defense amid criticism that he’s been to slow to release his tax returns, particularly in comparison to when Biden has faced a backlash.

“Longstanding relationships with people who know you, who know who you are and what you stand for, always gives you credibility,” said Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.). Biden eulogized her husband, former Rep. John Dingell — the longest serving lawmaker in history — earlier this year.

“I’m not meaning to make a comparison,” Coons said. But “among the two dozen [Senate Democrats] who did serve with him, at least half of them are being advocates for him.”
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
26. i don't consider electabily. the candidate that generates the most enthusiasm wins.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:13 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,898 posts)
27. Also
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:15 PM
Apr 2019
A Monmouth University poll of likely Iowa Democratic caucusgoers released Thursday showed Biden leading the pack of 2020 hopefuls among voters earning less than $50,000 a year as well as those without a college degree.

At the same time, Biden, who has yet to announce a presidential bid, has deep ties to organized labor, developed over a nearly 50-year career in public service, that could potentially offer influential endorsements should he enter the presidential contest.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/438710-sanders-sees-path-to-beating-trump-in-rust-belt
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
28. Kinda like Hubert Humphrey.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 06:22 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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